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E] Pick up a chair and break it on their skull, kick them in the groin, gouge eyes, go for the throat, stomp head, whatever it takes to make them go down and st

E] Pick up a chair and break it on their skull, kick them in the groin, gouge eyes, go for the throat, stomp head, whatever it takes to make them go down and stay down. You could be seriously hurt/killed in a fight, so don't give the other guy the opportunity to do it to you. If you're not willing to go that far, you shouldn't be fighting. If you can cause them to realize that this is not a game and you're not two kids slapping each other, and that this is a situation that could 1] get them killed and 2] be avoided they might give it a second thought.

earnubs 16y ago
Which action movie did you just walk in from? If you progress from bar fight to attempted murder like this what happens is people pull you off the guy, the police come, you get arrested. That's if you're lucky.
- PostOnce 16y ago
  I guess we live in different places and people from different places approach things differently. I don't get in fights any more because I don't particularly feel like being hospitalized again, and some of my acquaintances are dead. If I have a choice, I walk away. But if I stay, the reason must be good enough for me to go hard instead of going home. The only place I've ever seen a fight broken up was at school, and even then, rarely. Teachers don't want to get hurt over nothing. So much for "people pull you off the guy". My point was just that, you can technically be killed with a single hit. Don't approach fights like you will be fine. Don't assume people will pull the guy off you. Your life is at risk regardless of how mundane it may seem. Take it seriously. While I'm lecturing, take driving your car seriously too. Flying down the road in a metal box surrounded by people who aren't paying attention isn't safe either. :P
dkarl 16y ago
I'm curious about this advice. It makes sense in a kill-or-be-killed scenario, but it seems like the people who habitually start fights want to hurt and humiliate somebody, establish their superiority, and feel like a badass, not kill or maim somebody. They have some (however strange) idea of what's acceptable violence and what's dirty. If you seriously gouge a guy's eyes but don't win the fight, his objective might change from beating you down to seriously hurting you in retaliation for your transgression. In a "social" fight where a guy thinks he is restoring his slighted masculinity or enforcing his idea of the proper order of the universe, I would think the better odds offered by fighting dirty would be outweighed by the possibly much worse outcome if you lose. Granted, you can get killed or seriously injured in any kind of fight, but why make it more likely? Does that make sense?
aphyr 16y ago
I'm not sure why you're voted negative for this. There are appropriate contexts for a restrained fight, to be sure: this advice may not be appropriate for an "honorable" bar-fight or a friend who's on meth. But this is similar to the techniques I'd use for self-defense in a desperate situation. The context of the article is that both diplomacy and escape have failed. Priority #1 is self-preservation. If you're a young woman walking to her car and a man wearing a hood comes running up, yeah, use the pepper spray. Pick up a brick. Grab your keys between your fingers and go for the eyes. Attack the eyes, groin, knees, throat, fingers, and arch of the foot, and yell for help the whole time. The instant you can move faster than he can, get out of there and call 911.
lanstein 16y ago
In PCB Wrestling, that would be D) use chair

earnubs 16y ago

Which action movie did you just walk in from? If you progress from bar fight to attempted murder like this what happens is people pull you off the guy, the police come, you get arrested. That's if you're lucky.

PostOnce 16y ago
I guess we live in different places and people from different places approach things differently. I don't get in fights any more because I don't particularly feel like being hospitalized again, and some of my acquaintances are dead. If I have a choice, I walk away. But if I stay, the reason must be good enough for me to go hard instead of going home. The only place I've ever seen a fight broken up was at school, and even then, rarely. Teachers don't want to get hurt over nothing. So much for "people pull you off the guy". My point was just that, you can technically be killed with a single hit. Don't approach fights like you will be fine. Don't assume people will pull the guy off you. Your life is at risk regardless of how mundane it may seem. Take it seriously. While I'm lecturing, take driving your car seriously too. Flying down the road in a metal box surrounded by people who aren't paying attention isn't safe either. :P

dkarl 16y ago

I'm curious about this advice. It makes sense in a kill-or-be-killed scenario, but it seems like the people who habitually start fights want to hurt and humiliate somebody, establish their superiority, and feel like a badass, not kill or maim somebody. They have some (however strange) idea of what's acceptable violence and what's dirty. If you seriously gouge a guy's eyes but don't win the fight, his objective might change from beating you down to seriously hurting you in retaliation for your transgression. In a "social" fight where a guy thinks he is restoring his slighted masculinity or enforcing his idea of the proper order of the universe, I would think the better odds offered by fighting dirty would be outweighed by the possibly much worse outcome if you lose. Granted, you can get killed or seriously injured in any kind of fight, but why make it more likely? Does that make sense?

aphyr 16y ago

I'm not sure why you're voted negative for this. There are appropriate contexts for a restrained fight, to be sure: this advice may not be appropriate for an "honorable" bar-fight or a friend who's on meth. But this is similar to the techniques I'd use for self-defense in a desperate situation. The context of the article is that both diplomacy and escape have failed. Priority #1 is self-preservation. If you're a young woman walking to her car and a man wearing a hood comes running up, yeah, use the pepper spray. Pick up a brick. Grab your keys between your fingers and go for the eyes. Attack the eyes, groin, knees, throat, fingers, and arch of the foot, and yell for help the whole time. The instant you can move faster than he can, get out of there and call 911.

lanstein 16y ago

In PCB Wrestling, that would be D) use chair