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I agree with your sentiment, but there's one piece of this whole thing I have a big problem with. It's my device. I understand Spotify's motivation to want com

I agree with your sentiment, but there's one piece of this whole thing I have a big problem with. It's my device. I understand Spotify's motivation to want compensation for their great service, but shouldn't I be able to run my software, on my device, on my terms? I understand this argument doesn't solve anything, and puts Spotify in a bad situation. But...how long until someone creates a solution to scrub the audio of ads in real-time? With a beginning delay for the listening buffer, of course. This isn't trivial, but it sure is repeatable. I wish I had something better. I don't know; this quickly feels like digital [media] in the early 2000's all over again.

umanwizard 8y ago
Yes, you can run whatever software you want on your device. Who is telling you you can't? In turn, Spotify can prevent whomever they want from streaming their content for free.
bad_user 8y ago
What you're witnessing is the inevitable backlash. It's your device. But Spotify also has the right to block your device. > ...how long until someone creates a solution to scrub the audio of ads in real-time? Let me tell you a little open secret. Ad-blocking in general can be circumvented right now. Even the most aggressive ad-blocking techniques can be brought to their knees, because they can be detected and the website can serve the content in such a way as to make ads impossible to block without ruining the content. Not many publishers do it because publishers have chosen to not piss off the minority that has ad-blockers installed. But this minority has been growing and what you're seeing is them fighting back. You ask how long will it take to block audio ads? It's irrelevant, because the publisher can deploy DRM in such a way as to make ad-blocking attempts illegal and easy to trace, since the streaming is done in real time from a central source. And thus users can receive big fines as to stop everyone else from doing it. That publishers don't do this yet, that's only because they preferred to play nice with ad-blockers. But threaten their bottom line long enough and they'll fight back. And who can blame them? Here's Spotify with a pretty good subscription model and users are now up in arms for no longer being able to get their content for free without ads.
- userbinator 8y ago
  It's irrelevant, because the publisher can deploy DRM in such a way as to make ad-blocking attempts illegal and easy to trace How can they detect me covering the screen, looking away, or just not listening? How can that be illegal? It's a cat-and-mouse game, and the mice will always win. Ultimately you'll get to the "analog hole of adblocking" situation anyway (user simply takes the headphones off or closes eyes or looks away etc.)
  - bad_user 8y ago
    > It's a cat-and-mouse game, and the mice will always win You don't have much experience with actual cats hunting mice to make that analogy. Mice can win by breeding, but a lot of mice die in the process while the cat is getting fat.

umanwizard 8y ago

Yes, you can run whatever software you want on your device. Who is telling you you can't? In turn, Spotify can prevent whomever they want from streaming their content for free.

bad_user 8y ago

What you're witnessing is the inevitable backlash. It's your device. But Spotify also has the right to block your device. > ...how long until someone creates a solution to scrub the audio of ads in real-time? Let me tell you a little open secret. Ad-blocking in general can be circumvented right now. Even the most aggressive ad-blocking techniques can be brought to their knees, because they can be detected and the website can serve the content in such a way as to make ads impossible to block without ruining the content. Not many publishers do it because publishers have chosen to not piss off the minority that has ad-blockers installed. But this minority has been growing and what you're seeing is them fighting back. You ask how long will it take to block audio ads? It's irrelevant, because the publisher can deploy DRM in such a way as to make ad-blocking attempts illegal and easy to trace, since the streaming is done in real time from a central source. And thus users can receive big fines as to stop everyone else from doing it. That publishers don't do this yet, that's only because they preferred to play nice with ad-blockers. But threaten their bottom line long enough and they'll fight back. And who can blame them? Here's Spotify with a pretty good subscription model and users are now up in arms for no longer being able to get their content for free without ads.

userbinator 8y ago
It's irrelevant, because the publisher can deploy DRM in such a way as to make ad-blocking attempts illegal and easy to trace How can they detect me covering the screen, looking away, or just not listening? How can that be illegal? It's a cat-and-mouse game, and the mice will always win. Ultimately you'll get to the "analog hole of adblocking" situation anyway (user simply takes the headphones off or closes eyes or looks away etc.)
- bad_user 8y ago
  > It's a cat-and-mouse game, and the mice will always win You don't have much experience with actual cats hunting mice to make that analogy. Mice can win by breeding, but a lot of mice die in the process while the cat is getting fat.