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I wouldn't consider it humiliating. And there's a dimension this doesn't talk about: false positives. Twitter has to make an actual decision to ban an account.
by ambulancechaser 8y ago
I wouldn't consider it humiliating. And there's a dimension this doesn't talk about: false positives. Twitter has to make an actual decision to ban an account. When they get this wrong, they have unhappy users and I'm sure articles would appear here about the terrible work they are doing. These researchers pay none of those costs about false positives. Perhaps they have a 7% false positive rate and consider that pretty good. That amounts to about 12,000 legitimate users banned.
- adriveatrain 8y agoSome of Twitter's users are more equal than others when it comes to bans. I don't think they are concerned about blowback from false positives from spam accounts. e.g. "Learn to code" was tweeted at me by a sketchy account. I reported it as abusive behavior as part of targeted harassment. Twitter suspended the account within 20 minutes. Journalists if they tweet "learn to code" at you don't stay silent, take a moment to report it. https://t.co/RXgqqV2ptw https://t.co/RXgqqV2ptw — Ben Popken (@bpopken) February 1, 2019
- pacerwpg 8y agoIt could also be that accounts that take part in harassment/harassment adjacent behavior may already have a few strikes against them for similar things.
- untog 8y agoI wouldn't consider that a typical example given that the whole "learn to code" thing was a targeted harassment campaign. Not difficult to imagine that in that timeframe Twitter had prioritised investigating and banning users who were participating in it.
- adriveatrain 8y agoThey didn't extend such protections to schoolchild Nick Sandmann "#MAGAkids go screaming, hats first, into the woodchipper"
- untog 8y agoProbably because there was no coordinated harassment campaign, and he isn't even on Twitter. But sure, keep up the false equivalence.
- adriveatrain 8y agoWho was co-ordinating the tweeting of "Learn to code" at Ben Popken? Perhaps I can put it another way "I don’t believe that we can afford to take a neutral stance anymore. I don’t believe that we should optimize for neutrality." - Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey Feb 5 2019
- untog 8y ago4chan. I mean, the threads are all public, it seems exceptionally stupid to claim it wasn't happening.
- adriveatrain 8y agoAnd he got 1 response. Not very effective.
- untog 8y agoWhat are you gibbering on about?
- adriveatrain 8y agoWhat would you call this highly publicised and still present Tweet from CNN presenter, Kathy Griffin, I wonder [1] > Name these kids. I want NAMES. Shame them. If you think these fuckers wouldn’t dox you in a heartbeat, think again. [1] https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1086927762634399744 https://twitter.com/kathygriffin/status/1086927762634399744
- untog 8y agoI would call it a single abusive tweet. Not a coordinated campaign, not specifically targeted at any Twitter user. This isn't complex.