> You answer yourself: No, I meant, where is the standard issued by the Kultusministerkonferenz, like there is for Standard German spelling? A convention is no

> You answer yourself: No, I meant, where is the standard issued by the Kultusministerkonferenz, like there is for Standard German spelling? A convention is not a standard. > Do you have a recording of that? I'd say it kind of like the Swiss German speaker here: https://forvo.com/word/und/#gsw https://forvo.com/word/und/#gsw And coming back to the original Rat/Rad distinction, https://forvo.com/word/rat/#de https://forvo.com/word/rat/#de and https://forvo.com/word/rad/#de https://forvo.com/word/rad/#de do sound different. The second "Rad" speaker (from southern Germany) makes almost no 'd' or 't' sound at all, but the same speaker pronounces "Rat" with a very hard and clear 't'.