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> If your company uses this gear you are exposing everyone on your network to state level hacking. Why do you automatically assume that equipment made in the

> If your company uses this gear you are exposing everyone on your network to state level hacking. Why do you automatically assume that equipment made in the US (or any other country) is magically immune to 'state level hacking' by the country that made it? IMHO, this is more of a power move to encourage folks to use equipment the US government has control over to do with as they please. In other words, trading one 'state level hacking' opportunity for another. But in this case, the other is close enough to pay you a visit.

rudolph9 8y ago
Pick your poison. Although there are many examples of corruption and human rights violations in the US, compared to China US-citizens have significantly more leverage over their government and arguably more power to push back on this kind of surveillance. A good example of this is Google encrypting network traffic between servers after the Snowden stuff was made public. https://gmail.googleblog.com/2014/03/staying-at-forefront-of-email-security.html?m=1 https://gmail.googleblog.com/2014/03/staying-at-forefront-of...
- magduf 8y ago
  Yes, but practically speaking, China has almost no power at all to bother you if they successfully spy on you, aside of course from passing any secrets they learn from you to your Chinese competitors. The US, on the other hand, is where you're located (in this example) and can easily use any information gained against you in a large multitude of ways. Basically, everyone would probably be better off just assuming any network gear has backdoors open to the government of the country that it came from, then just adopting security policies to mitigate this, and buying network gear from countries that aren't their own.
solotronics 8y ago
Look no further than Tiananmen square to see the true face of communist China. They executed thousands of protesters with the military that day. Today they make dissenters disappear into a work camp prison and organ harvesting complex. I love the Chinese people and hope the government can change but they do not have a good human rights record.

rudolph9 8y ago

Pick your poison. Although there are many examples of corruption and human rights violations in the US, compared to China US-citizens have significantly more leverage over their government and arguably more power to push back on this kind of surveillance. A good example of this is Google encrypting network traffic between servers after the Snowden stuff was made public. https://gmail.googleblog.com/2014/03/staying-at-forefront-of-email-security.html?m=1 https://gmail.googleblog.com/2014/03/staying-at-forefront-of...

magduf 8y ago
Yes, but practically speaking, China has almost no power at all to bother you if they successfully spy on you, aside of course from passing any secrets they learn from you to your Chinese competitors. The US, on the other hand, is where you're located (in this example) and can easily use any information gained against you in a large multitude of ways. Basically, everyone would probably be better off just assuming any network gear has backdoors open to the government of the country that it came from, then just adopting security policies to mitigate this, and buying network gear from countries that aren't their own.

solotronics 8y ago

Look no further than Tiananmen square to see the true face of communist China. They executed thousands of protesters with the military that day. Today they make dissenters disappear into a work camp prison and organ harvesting complex. I love the Chinese people and hope the government can change but they do not have a good human rights record.