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Good comparison. Did Apple perhaps think the same thing? Their marketing (as always) is brilliant as I would expect it as a nice push for iTunes & Ping. It's ha

Good comparison. Did Apple perhaps think the same thing? Their marketing (as always) is brilliant as I would expect it as a nice push for iTunes & Ping. It's hard not to like "Love Me Do." If the Beatles music changed over-time, are you suggesting a pivot from the MVP? Perhaps just a change of times? Their feat for being so liked/relevant for so long is nothing to sneeze at. Is that possible for startups?

PhantomShitter 16y ago
Oh god, please just shut up. Seriously, you're getting drool everywhere.
- stckrpnd10 16y ago
  Won't stoop to this level. If you'd like to engage in reasoned, logical and most important, civil discussion, I'm game. Until then, later, PhantomShitter.
NathanKP 16y ago
I think that as far as longevity goes, both music and startups can vary in how long they maintain audience interest. For instance, there are still people today who like to listen to classical music, but that audience is still much smaller than the audience who likes the latest pop star. The Beatles have maintained a very loyal audience base, but as far as sales go they too are no longer the most popular. Just like music can slowly lose popularity as new generations become interested in new genres, so web apps lose popularity over time. But I think that decay is greatly accelerated by the fast moving nature of technology. Therefore while 50 years doesn't move the Beatles into obscurity, and a couple hundred years doesn't completely erase interest in classical music, just five or ten years can sweep away a web app and replace it with something new. It might be possible to create a startup which tries to maintain a small, very loyal group of people who love the startup from the start and continue loving it as it is for a long time, but just as in the music industry the best results are achieved by constantly updating the style and techniques to match what people want today.
- stckrpnd10 16y ago
  I agree with the above. I posed the question because it's an interesting question on how does a startup (or band) maintain its base of loyalists - especially if it stops evolving at some point. Comparing the two, I think (we'd hope) that technology will evolve enough to replace itself quicker than something like classical music. But, at some point, perhaps it won't or there's a app that can last. For instance, I'm interested in how CraigsList can keep its foothold / loyal followers? Sure has done an amazing job so far.
tybris 16y ago
Could you try to just say. "I'm a fan whatever they do!"? That would be a lot more sincere than trying to rationalize the fact that they just advertised the announcement of signing a contract with a half dead band as a day people would never forget. If it is a day I would never forget, it would be solely as the day Apple became a caricature of itself.
- stckrpnd10 16y ago
  I think I said "marketing (as always) is brilliant as I would expect it as a nice push for iTunes & Ping." I do think their marketing is brilliant. Apologies, but that's my opinion. If you think that's incorrect, I'd ask you dictate (1) why its not and/or (2) perhaps an example of another company who does it better. That would probably be more productive + interesting than calling me out personally for my view on the subject. I do think your point about "a day people would never forget" is a fair one. Probably a bit over the top, but I think it is an exciting day for Beatles fans at least and they might never forget it.

PhantomShitter 16y ago

Oh god, please just shut up. Seriously, you're getting drool everywhere.

stckrpnd10 16y ago
Won't stoop to this level. If you'd like to engage in reasoned, logical and most important, civil discussion, I'm game. Until then, later, PhantomShitter.

NathanKP 16y ago

I think that as far as longevity goes, both music and startups can vary in how long they maintain audience interest. For instance, there are still people today who like to listen to classical music, but that audience is still much smaller than the audience who likes the latest pop star. The Beatles have maintained a very loyal audience base, but as far as sales go they too are no longer the most popular. Just like music can slowly lose popularity as new generations become interested in new genres, so web apps lose popularity over time. But I think that decay is greatly accelerated by the fast moving nature of technology. Therefore while 50 years doesn't move the Beatles into obscurity, and a couple hundred years doesn't completely erase interest in classical music, just five or ten years can sweep away a web app and replace it with something new. It might be possible to create a startup which tries to maintain a small, very loyal group of people who love the startup from the start and continue loving it as it is for a long time, but just as in the music industry the best results are achieved by constantly updating the style and techniques to match what people want today.

stckrpnd10 16y ago
I agree with the above. I posed the question because it's an interesting question on how does a startup (or band) maintain its base of loyalists - especially if it stops evolving at some point. Comparing the two, I think (we'd hope) that technology will evolve enough to replace itself quicker than something like classical music. But, at some point, perhaps it won't or there's a app that can last. For instance, I'm interested in how CraigsList can keep its foothold / loyal followers? Sure has done an amazing job so far.

tybris 16y ago

Could you try to just say. "I'm a fan whatever they do!"? That would be a lot more sincere than trying to rationalize the fact that they just advertised the announcement of signing a contract with a half dead band as a day people would never forget. If it is a day I would never forget, it would be solely as the day Apple became a caricature of itself.

stckrpnd10 16y ago
I think I said "marketing (as always) is brilliant as I would expect it as a nice push for iTunes & Ping." I do think their marketing is brilliant. Apologies, but that's my opinion. If you think that's incorrect, I'd ask you dictate (1) why its not and/or (2) perhaps an example of another company who does it better. That would probably be more productive + interesting than calling me out personally for my view on the subject. I do think your point about "a day people would never forget" is a fair one. Probably a bit over the top, but I think it is an exciting day for Beatles fans at least and they might never forget it.