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Obama Proclaims November 19th as National Entrepreneurs’ Day

39 points by jaybol 16y ago

willheim 16y ago
So... do we get to take a day off?
- lukifer 16y ago
  Maybe take the day off from your day job to work on your side project? :)
  - blhack 16y ago
    Wow it would be incredibly to see employers adopt that.
- rms 16y ago
  Probably the best we can hope for is $3 well drinks.
chailatte 16y ago
He wants us to work harder that day so to pay off the raises he's been giving to the federal workers. "The number of federal workers earning $150,000 or more per year has risen tenfold in the past five years. And it has doubled since Obama took office." http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_the_fat_of_the_land.html http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_th...
- jon_hendry 16y ago
  That's meaningless without info about what those jobs are. Clueful SEC investigators, skilled engineers, top scientists aren't going to come cheap. Also, "since Obama took office" doesn't mean much, since Obama's first year in office was under Bush's last budget. Finally, if you outsource or contract out lower-wage Federal jobs, it should be expected that the remaining employees will have a higher concentration of high-wage specialists.
  - chailatte 16y ago
    I hope your whole thing was sarcasm because: "Clueful SEC investigators" You mean those hard working folks that ended up NOT prosecuting any of the investment/banking heads that crashed the market? "top scientists" you realize that NASA just had a massive 1200 people layoff? "remaining employees will have a higher concentration of high-wage specialists" We're not talking about the average here. More federal workers made more money. It's that simple. Unless you're implying that the money they saved in outsourcing was then spent on the remaining workers, in which case, how is that better?
    - jon_hendry 16y ago
      "We're not talking about the average here." No, but if you're not hiring low-paid positions, then clearly the people you're left hiring are going to be for high-pay positions. Also, the number of >$150k positions went from 1% to 4%. Which is a pretty small proportion of total Federal employment.
  - anamax 16y ago
    > Also, "since Obama took office" doesn't mean much, since Obama's first year in office was under Bush's last budget. Actually, it wasn't; Congress didn't pass a budget during Bush's last year. It passed some continuing resolutions during the end of the Bush administration and passed a budget during Obama's first few months.
    - jonhendry 16y ago
      "Bush administration and passed a budget during Obama's first few months." Who came up with the content? Was it based on the Bush administration's proposals, or the new Obama administration's proposals? The Obama administration was hardly even staffed out for months.
      - anamax 16y ago
        > Who came up with the content? It was a dem budget. Congress basically ran the spending from 2006 on. Bush didn't threaten a veto, let alone do one. (The last deficit from a repub congress was $100b/year. The current deficit is over 10x as big.) Considering how little that Obama has deviated since then, it's unclear why you think that the budget passed in early 2008 isn't what he wanted.
- shmulkey18 16y ago
  More here: http://reason.org/news/show/public-sector-private-sector-salary http://reason.org/news/show/public-sector-private-sector-sal...
johngalt 16y ago
Spiders declare Nov 20th national day of flies.
- jberryman 16y ago
  *groan i`m flagging this story as flamebait. not really interested in the libertarian hatefest that it invites.
  - muhfuhkuh 16y ago
    Come on, it's hacker news: Home of many libertarians, aspies (and wannabes), grammar sticklers, and concern trolls. Obama doesn't have a chance in hell here, even when he's trying to give a shout-out. He, and anyone who doesn't have a tax break or credit in hand, will get the same treatment here. As a bleeding heart liberal, I've come to terms with it :)
    - smokeyj 16y ago
      Is it radical that entrepreneurs want to keep their money, so they can invest it the way they see fit? As a bleeding heart thinker, I've come to terms with this.
durbin 16y ago
Babson What!
heyrhett 16y ago
Oh great, it's our day, and we can celebrate by thanking, mentoring, lending money, and paying it forward. "Hey Entrepreneurs! It's your day! Please bail out the country, the rest of us have no idea what we're doing!"
shmulkey18 16y ago
But remember kids, business is icky, the rich are evil, investors are greedy, and "public service" is preferable to working in the private sector.
Towle_ 16y ago
Idea: Stock bought/sold on Nov. 19th not subject to capital gains tax
crikli 16y ago
Huh. I thought that was April 15th.

39 points by jaybol 16y ago

willheim 16y ago

So... do we get to take a day off?

lukifer 16y ago
Maybe take the day off from your day job to work on your side project? :)
- blhack 16y ago
  Wow it would be incredibly to see employers adopt that.
rms 16y ago
Probably the best we can hope for is $3 well drinks.

chailatte 16y ago

He wants us to work harder that day so to pay off the raises he's been giving to the federal workers. "The number of federal workers earning $150,000 or more per year has risen tenfold in the past five years. And it has doubled since Obama took office." http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_the_fat_of_the_land.html http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_th...

jon_hendry 16y ago
That's meaningless without info about what those jobs are. Clueful SEC investigators, skilled engineers, top scientists aren't going to come cheap. Also, "since Obama took office" doesn't mean much, since Obama's first year in office was under Bush's last budget. Finally, if you outsource or contract out lower-wage Federal jobs, it should be expected that the remaining employees will have a higher concentration of high-wage specialists.
- chailatte 16y ago
  I hope your whole thing was sarcasm because: "Clueful SEC investigators" You mean those hard working folks that ended up NOT prosecuting any of the investment/banking heads that crashed the market? "top scientists" you realize that NASA just had a massive 1200 people layoff? "remaining employees will have a higher concentration of high-wage specialists" We're not talking about the average here. More federal workers made more money. It's that simple. Unless you're implying that the money they saved in outsourcing was then spent on the remaining workers, in which case, how is that better?
  - jon_hendry 16y ago
    "We're not talking about the average here." No, but if you're not hiring low-paid positions, then clearly the people you're left hiring are going to be for high-pay positions. Also, the number of >$150k positions went from 1% to 4%. Which is a pretty small proportion of total Federal employment.
- anamax 16y ago
  > Also, "since Obama took office" doesn't mean much, since Obama's first year in office was under Bush's last budget. Actually, it wasn't; Congress didn't pass a budget during Bush's last year. It passed some continuing resolutions during the end of the Bush administration and passed a budget during Obama's first few months.
  - jonhendry 16y ago
    "Bush administration and passed a budget during Obama's first few months." Who came up with the content? Was it based on the Bush administration's proposals, or the new Obama administration's proposals? The Obama administration was hardly even staffed out for months.
    - anamax 16y ago
      > Who came up with the content? It was a dem budget. Congress basically ran the spending from 2006 on. Bush didn't threaten a veto, let alone do one. (The last deficit from a repub congress was $100b/year. The current deficit is over 10x as big.) Considering how little that Obama has deviated since then, it's unclear why you think that the budget passed in early 2008 isn't what he wanted.
shmulkey18 16y ago
More here: http://reason.org/news/show/public-sector-private-sector-salary http://reason.org/news/show/public-sector-private-sector-sal...

johngalt 16y ago

Spiders declare Nov 20th national day of flies.

jberryman 16y ago
*groan i`m flagging this story as flamebait. not really interested in the libertarian hatefest that it invites.
- muhfuhkuh 16y ago
  Come on, it's hacker news: Home of many libertarians, aspies (and wannabes), grammar sticklers, and concern trolls. Obama doesn't have a chance in hell here, even when he's trying to give a shout-out. He, and anyone who doesn't have a tax break or credit in hand, will get the same treatment here. As a bleeding heart liberal, I've come to terms with it :)
  - smokeyj 16y ago
    Is it radical that entrepreneurs want to keep their money, so they can invest it the way they see fit? As a bleeding heart thinker, I've come to terms with this.

durbin 16y ago

Babson What!

heyrhett 16y ago

Oh great, it's our day, and we can celebrate by thanking, mentoring, lending money, and paying it forward. "Hey Entrepreneurs! It's your day! Please bail out the country, the rest of us have no idea what we're doing!"

shmulkey18 16y ago

But remember kids, business is icky, the rich are evil, investors are greedy, and "public service" is preferable to working in the private sector.

Towle_ 16y ago

Idea: Stock bought/sold on Nov. 19th not subject to capital gains tax

crikli 16y ago

Huh. I thought that was April 15th.