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Yeah no way. WhatsApp already does e2e. Signal doesn't bring anything else that's significant for me as a techie, much less the general population. Matrix can

Yeah no way. WhatsApp already does e2e. Signal doesn't bring anything else that's significant for me as a techie, much less the general population. Matrix can replace Slack and the various mobile messengers, meaning there's a hook for companies as well. I don't think it's ready yet, but I'd rather be a condescending preachy asshole to my friends and family only when there's a very compelling reason.

ForHackernews 8y ago
Facebook ads: Coming soon to your WhatsApp conversations!
tapoxi 8y ago
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." Onboarding friends and family to Matrix or XMPP is almost impossible. Signal is dead simple and automatically discovers your contacts, while being secure, open, and developed by a non-profit. Ideally I'd like it to be a federated system, but I'm not going to use untrustworthy systems like Messenger/WhatsApp because I'm not getting every feature I want.
- anoncake 8y ago
  Signal is not open. That's the problem. You are forced to use the official client.
  - omnimus 8y ago
    Thats also probably the main reason why it is sucessful. Everybody gets the same. They focus on one thing and don't delute it with funky in a year maintainer lost interest rust clients. I don't care. Give me ethical, privacy minded software not some phd experiments.
    - anoncake 8y ago
      You don't care about freedom, got it.
technofiend 8y ago
>Yeah no way. WhatsApp already does e2e. Signal doesn't bring anything else that's significant for me as a techie, much less the general population. You mean besides freeing them from the Facebook ecosystem? That alone is worth it to me.
ric2b 8y ago
Sure, WhatsApp does e2e encryption. Guess what company is also on both of those ends? If people could stop parroting this as if fucking Facebook was trustworthy, that'd be great.

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Yeah no way. WhatsApp already does e2e. Signal doesn't bring anything else that's significant for me as a techie, much less the general population. Matrix can

by mixedCase 8y ago

ForHackernews 8y ago
Facebook ads: Coming soon to your WhatsApp conversations!
tapoxi 8y ago
"The perfect is the enemy of the good." Onboarding friends and family to Matrix or XMPP is almost impossible. Signal is dead simple and automatically discovers your contacts, while being secure, open, and developed by a non-profit. Ideally I'd like it to be a federated system, but I'm not going to use untrustworthy systems like Messenger/WhatsApp because I'm not getting every feature I want.
- anoncake 8y ago
  Signal is not open. That's the problem. You are forced to use the official client.
  - omnimus 8y ago
    Thats also probably the main reason why it is sucessful. Everybody gets the same. They focus on one thing and don't delute it with funky in a year maintainer lost interest rust clients. I don't care. Give me ethical, privacy minded software not some phd experiments.
    - anoncake 8y ago
      You don't care about freedom, got it.
technofiend 8y ago
>Yeah no way. WhatsApp already does e2e. Signal doesn't bring anything else that's significant for me as a techie, much less the general population. You mean besides freeing them from the Facebook ecosystem? That alone is worth it to me.
ric2b 8y ago
Sure, WhatsApp does e2e encryption. Guess what company is also on both of those ends? If people could stop parroting this as if fucking Facebook was trustworthy, that'd be great.