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> So would the President choose the radiation naked picture method or the deep groping method for his daughters? I'd seriously like that question asked at some

> So would the President choose the radiation naked picture method or the deep groping method for his daughters? I'd seriously like that question asked at some point by the press. No one in the press has the guts to ask him this. But man, I'd love to see that too.

ck2 16y ago
To be fair, not just the President but also any Congressperson/Senator that is interviewed for the rest of the year on any program. Which one do you want your mother/children experiencing, naked picture radiation, deep groping, or would you instead choose the $10,000 fine for leaving (and possibly being put on the no-fly list forever)?
- shaddi 16y ago
  Maybe I'm just cynical but I'd imagine the answer would be something like, "The scanner. The devices are safe and we feel their use is important for ensuring the safety of US citizens. Next question?"
  - umjames 16y ago
    Yeah, you can give any answer when you know you'll never need to actually be put through any of the options. If everyone who flies, and I do mean everyone (regardless of whether you'll be boarding a personal plane), had to go through this every time, we'd see this go away.
- jdp23 16y ago
  I talked with the TSA's director of privacy policy Peter Pietra a while ago, and he's a big proponent of the scanners: he thinks there aren't any radiation risks. My guess is that a lot of the people in the administrations see things the same way.
- retroafroman 16y ago
  Utah Congreessman Jason Chaffetz has made quite a big deal about getting rid of the backscatter x-ray machines in the past, when they were first being implemented
  - jdp23 16y ago
    indeed. back in May 2009, as a freshman congressman, Jason led an unexpected bipartisan outcry in the House that got the machines defunded. the vote happened right before final session of the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy conference (which was in DC that year) where we had been talking -- and tweeting! -- about this all week. it really isn't a partisan issue.
- tedunangst 16y ago
  I had no idea what $10k fine you were talking about, but did some searching and found this (for anyone else who doesn't keep up on all the latest TSA news). http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/ http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oc...
- marchdown 16y ago
  This is something I just don't get. Congressmen are some of the most frequent flyers, and if anybody outside TSA itself has any say in the matter, it is them. Why don't they push harder? Alternatively, why does the press behave as if congressmen are simply ignorant of the issue? Why don't they discuss it publicly?
rhizome 16y ago
It would be a waste of a question because the President will never have to experience this scanning. Better yet: ask Chelsea Clinton or the Bush daughters.
fleitz 16y ago
Brilliant framing of the issue. I can see the ads already. This framing is almost as brilliant as the death tax.
bambax 16y ago
There is a meme growing on Twitter: http://twitter.com/#search?q=%40cnn http://twitter.com/#search?q=%40cnn Mr. President: Would you send Michelle/Sasha/Malia through TSA screening? Naked photos or invasive genital groping, you get to pick.
- Blunt 16y ago
  Airforce-1 doesn't have this.
  - huhtenberg 16y ago
    Nor do any private plane terminals for that matter, international and domestic. You own or charter a plane - you are TSA-free.
    - lylejohnson 16y ago
      For now? I wonder.
    - Vivtek 16y ago
      Because there are no terrorists who can afford their own planes, clearly.
- jdp23 16y ago
  this Mediate article has background on the Twitter meme: http://www.mediaite.com/online/reddit-users-asks-obama-to-send-his-family-through-tsa-body-scanners/ http://www.mediaite.com/online/reddit-users-asks-obama-to-se...
- jergason 16y ago
  This appears to have started on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e6nmp/dear_mr_president_would_you_send_the_first_lady/c15r3b4 http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e6nmp/dear_mr_pres... It will be interesting to be able to pinpoint where this started if it has any actual effect on the situation.
itg 16y ago
No matter what he says, he can't win. Some will blame him for keeping the scanners in place and the others will play the political game blame him for being weak on security (even if they know the scanners are useless)

ck2 16y ago

To be fair, not just the President but also any Congressperson/Senator that is interviewed for the rest of the year on any program. Which one do you want your mother/children experiencing, naked picture radiation, deep groping, or would you instead choose the $10,000 fine for leaving (and possibly being put on the no-fly list forever)?

shaddi 16y ago
Maybe I'm just cynical but I'd imagine the answer would be something like, "The scanner. The devices are safe and we feel their use is important for ensuring the safety of US citizens. Next question?"
- umjames 16y ago
  Yeah, you can give any answer when you know you'll never need to actually be put through any of the options. If everyone who flies, and I do mean everyone (regardless of whether you'll be boarding a personal plane), had to go through this every time, we'd see this go away.
jdp23 16y ago
I talked with the TSA's director of privacy policy Peter Pietra a while ago, and he's a big proponent of the scanners: he thinks there aren't any radiation risks. My guess is that a lot of the people in the administrations see things the same way.
retroafroman 16y ago
Utah Congreessman Jason Chaffetz has made quite a big deal about getting rid of the backscatter x-ray machines in the past, when they were first being implemented
- jdp23 16y ago
  indeed. back in May 2009, as a freshman congressman, Jason led an unexpected bipartisan outcry in the House that got the machines defunded. the vote happened right before final session of the Computers, Freedom, and Privacy conference (which was in DC that year) where we had been talking -- and tweeting! -- about this all week. it really isn't a partisan issue.
tedunangst 16y ago
I had no idea what $10k fine you were talking about, but did some searching and found this (for anyone else who doesn't keep up on all the latest TSA news). http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/ http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oc...
marchdown 16y ago
This is something I just don't get. Congressmen are some of the most frequent flyers, and if anybody outside TSA itself has any say in the matter, it is them. Why don't they push harder? Alternatively, why does the press behave as if congressmen are simply ignorant of the issue? Why don't they discuss it publicly?

rhizome 16y ago

It would be a waste of a question because the President will never have to experience this scanning. Better yet: ask Chelsea Clinton or the Bush daughters.

fleitz 16y ago

Brilliant framing of the issue. I can see the ads already. This framing is almost as brilliant as the death tax.

bambax 16y ago

There is a meme growing on Twitter: http://twitter.com/#search?q=%40cnn http://twitter.com/#search?q=%40cnn Mr. President: Would you send Michelle/Sasha/Malia through TSA screening? Naked photos or invasive genital groping, you get to pick.

Blunt 16y ago
Airforce-1 doesn't have this.
- huhtenberg 16y ago
  Nor do any private plane terminals for that matter, international and domestic. You own or charter a plane - you are TSA-free.
  - lylejohnson 16y ago
    For now? I wonder.
  - Vivtek 16y ago
    Because there are no terrorists who can afford their own planes, clearly.
jdp23 16y ago
this Mediate article has background on the Twitter meme: http://www.mediaite.com/online/reddit-users-asks-obama-to-send-his-family-through-tsa-body-scanners/ http://www.mediaite.com/online/reddit-users-asks-obama-to-se...
jergason 16y ago
This appears to have started on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e6nmp/dear_mr_president_would_you_send_the_first_lady/c15r3b4 http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/e6nmp/dear_mr_pres... It will be interesting to be able to pinpoint where this started if it has any actual effect on the situation.

itg 16y ago

No matter what he says, he can't win. Some will blame him for keeping the scanners in place and the others will play the political game blame him for being weak on security (even if they know the scanners are useless)