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"As a result of its size, passengers were asked to crowd together on one side or the other to help make turns." That's amazing

FabHK 8y ago
Somewhat unrelated, I’ve been wondering for a while whether all pax in concert moving to the front/back of the cabin could bring a jet out of its flight envelope. There’s one or two related aviation stack exchange questions (that I’ve contributed to, IIRC), but I’ve never seen an informative authoritative account.
- reeteshv 8y ago
  I did recall one incident where the plane got out of balance because of passengers moving in concert. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/asaram-bapu-rape-accused-aiims-polce-flight-jodhpur-341884-2016-09-19 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/asaram-bapu-rape-accus...
- AceyMan 8y ago
  Abso-freaking-lutly. The permitted range for the CG (longitudinally) — denoted as "% of MAC", for Mean Aerodynamic Chord — is quite narrow, and you prefer to stay away from the "edges" of that range whenever possible. The distribution of pax and baggage are chosen so as ensure its within the range. IOW, they don't book Row 1 then 2 then 3, etc, — sold seats are sprinkled across the aircraft as it's filled. I've been told when the flight attendants are moving forward and back with the beverage service you can watch the trim wheel turn as the autopilot maintains correct AOA.
- ddalex 8y ago
  When flying a small airplane in Asia we were all weighted individually, and distributed around the plane accordingly.
- leoedin 8y ago
  There was a plane crash in the Congo that was reportedly due to everyone running away from a crocodile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Bandundu_Filair_Let_L-410_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Bandundu_Filair_Let_L-410...
- grkvlt 8y ago
  On the ATR-72 [0] there is an extra leg that folds down at the back of the plane to stop it tipping over, and passengers at the front half must remain seated until the rear pax have left, so there must be some danger of unbalancing. These are weird planes in that the cargo is stored at the front, behind the pilots, and the only door is at the rear. They are prop planes, the 72 being a stretched 42, I believe. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72

FabHK 8y ago

Somewhat unrelated, I’ve been wondering for a while whether all pax in concert moving to the front/back of the cabin could bring a jet out of its flight envelope. There’s one or two related aviation stack exchange questions (that I’ve contributed to, IIRC), but I’ve never seen an informative authoritative account.

reeteshv 8y ago
I did recall one incident where the plane got out of balance because of passengers moving in concert. https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/asaram-bapu-rape-accused-aiims-polce-flight-jodhpur-341884-2016-09-19 https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/asaram-bapu-rape-accus...
AceyMan 8y ago
Abso-freaking-lutly. The permitted range for the CG (longitudinally) — denoted as "% of MAC", for Mean Aerodynamic Chord — is quite narrow, and you prefer to stay away from the "edges" of that range whenever possible. The distribution of pax and baggage are chosen so as ensure its within the range. IOW, they don't book Row 1 then 2 then 3, etc, — sold seats are sprinkled across the aircraft as it's filled. I've been told when the flight attendants are moving forward and back with the beverage service you can watch the trim wheel turn as the autopilot maintains correct AOA.
ddalex 8y ago
When flying a small airplane in Asia we were all weighted individually, and distributed around the plane accordingly.
leoedin 8y ago
There was a plane crash in the Congo that was reportedly due to everyone running away from a crocodile. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Bandundu_Filair_Let_L-410_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Bandundu_Filair_Let_L-410...
grkvlt 8y ago
On the ATR-72 [0] there is an extra leg that folds down at the back of the plane to stop it tipping over, and passengers at the front half must remain seated until the rear pax have left, so there must be some danger of unbalancing. These are weird planes in that the cargo is stored at the front, behind the pilots, and the only door is at the rear. They are prop planes, the 72 being a stretched 42, I believe. 0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATR_72