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You didn't pay attention to the key part "to a third party". Most of the larger companies don't use third party logging software, AFAIK.
by h3throw 8y ago
You didn't pay attention to the key part "to a third party". Most of the larger companies don't use third party logging software, AFAIK.
- briandear 8y agoThe first party already has your data under their own privacy policy. But users aren’t necessarily agreeing to the privacy policies of third parties when they use an app.
- guelo 8y agoThat's not true. Most companies offload analytics to a third party such as Google Analytics or Mixpanel.
- jug 8y agoOhh, I wonder if this is related to why Apple is doing this. It benefits the end user but also punishes app developers who rely on Google.
- saagarjha 8y ago> It benefits the end user There's your reason.
- LeoNatan25 8y agoHow funny that "benefits end user" and "punishes ... Google" are in the same sentence in such a nonchalant way.
- jayd16 8y agoDropping all analytics and crash reporting hurts the product and by extension the user.
- saagarjha 8y agoApple aggregates and sends crash reports if users choose to share them with app developers.
- DelightOne 8y agoNow you may ask yourself why some do not see that as enough to fix bugs in a timely manner.
- glitchc 8y agoIndeed, there are only a handful of analytics frameworks that control the bulk of marketshare, Google being the largest. Just banning the frameworks entirely would fix the problem for a vast majority of apps.
- abraae 8y agoSounds like a great opportunity for someone to sell some old-fashioned on premise software.
- gorkemcetin 8y agoOn-premise is not old fashioned. It is indeed a requirement in several countries, for many domains including finance, banking, healthcare, telco and such. When you include PII in your analytics service, it has to be taken care of explicitly. There are indeed a few on-premise mobile / web analytics platforms for product analytics purposes that you can deploy on your own servers and retain your users' data with your own rules with no dependence on 3rd parties (disclaimer: I am cofounder of Countly).
- WrtCdEvrydy 8y agoAlready exists, it's called Matomo and it is awesome.
- stephen_g 8y agoJust some minor pedantry - that should be on premises. Although it's pretty commonly misused, technically premises should always be plural when referring to a property/residence/place of business, and premise (as a noun) only means "a previous statement or proposition from which another is inferred or follows as a conclusion."
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- cronix 8y agoNeither of which show the passwords or credit cards users enter into input boxes, or replay the entire session and every single thing the user does in-app, like the software in question does. Did you read the original article on the software being used here? It's not analytics in the sense like the companies you mentioned are providing. https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/06/iphone-session-replay-screenshots/ https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/06/iphone-session-replay-scre...
- jkaplowitz 8y agoThe second of the two quoted sentences doesn't include that qualification. Does apple view it as implied by the previous sentence? Quite possibly, but both viewpoints are arguable.