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VSCode January 2019 (version 1.31) released

74 points by keybits 8y ago

ConceptJunkie 8y ago
I tried VS Code early on and decided I'd give it a serious shot when I could modify the color scheme without having to go through a whole page of notes, download and install something like 3 other programs and practically learn a whole new language. Is that possible yet? In other words, is there an actual GUI for configuring color, or at least a config file that's not some cryptic format for a program I've never used?
- ConceptJunkie 8y ago
  I know I'm probably exaggerating quite a bit, but I literally couldn't figure out how to do it after wasting a fair bit of time and gave up. I was raised in the era of "programmer editors" like Brief and Multi-edit (the latter of which I still use) and those were always extremely easy to configure and enhance without having to use a bunch of external tools.
- ch_123 8y ago
  Yes - https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/themes https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/themes (I also recall the process being rather user-unfriendly in earlier versions)
myfonj 8y ago
Fun fact: this is the first stable version that can start even without internet (LAN) connection on latest Windows 10 update 1809. (Mentioned as first Notable fix [0], fixed by updating Electron to v3.) https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_31#_notable-fixes https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_31#_notable-fixes
fartcannon 8y ago
Hey folks, don't forget that these guys still do this: https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/3093 https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/3093 https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/10497 https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/10497
- paulddraper 8y ago
  ??? The article is for microsoft/vscode. Your links are for dotnet/cli.
  - fartcannon 8y ago
    It's Microsoft telemetry in an open source project that doesn't respect the setting set by the user. The lack of a reply as to why should probably set off some alarms for the average tech user when it comes to any project with Microsoft telemetry in it.
minionslave 8y ago
At this point I am 100% sure, VS code will become a IDE like Visual Studio.
- azhenley 8y ago
  Is that bad? As long as it remains fast and easy to use, I am happy!
- mikece 8y ago
  If they ever add a visual editor that could be true. Still tons of thing Visual Studio does that VS Code doesn't.
  - Kiro 8y ago
    Like what? Never used Visual Studio.
    - azhenley 8y ago
      A lot of debugging and profiling features.
- 2bitencryption 8y ago
  I think the key is that it has the potential to be a great platform. The text-editing "fundamentals" are covered by the Monaco engine. The rest is covered by extensions. Out of the box, it's not much more than a glorified Notepad. Add some extensions and suddenly I'm stepping through my Rust breakpoints and inspecting values.
  - parvenu74 8y ago
    The language server protocol (LSP) is a massive leap forward. And unlike the Microsoft of Ballmer, LSP is an open standard that any editor designer can implement.
    - mr_overalls 8y ago
2bitencryption 8y ago
VS Code always has such wonderful release notes. I don't think I use 10% of the features mentioned, but I love reading about them and learning about them in these notes anyway.
mikece 8y ago
Not reloading when adding an extension is a long-overdue feature, in my opinion. What were the technical reasons for needed to reload?
- mpartel 8y ago
  It's easier to write correct code when you know certain state changes always entail a full reload. Extension installs are rare enough and VSCode reloads quick enough that the tradeoff seems sensible. This change introduces a new "extensions changed" event that extension points must (correctly) implement, so the cost is more code i.e. more opportunity for bugs. The essential question is of course, how much more, and I have no answer to that.
Scarbutt 8y ago
This allows you to create a VS Code terminal panel, which occupies the complete editor area as shown below: Emphasis on: which occupies the complete editor area as shown below: So finally windows has a decent terminal emulator, will install vscode just for this next time I'm on windows.
- xnyan 8y ago
  It's using xterm.js which has limitations on windows, for example PowerShell/cmd.exe will report mouse movement and I have not been able to get xterm.js based terminal emulators (vs code, hyper) to do the same.
gigatexal 8y ago
It’s still from a UI/UX perspective needlessly complicated. I wish they would make things a bit more obvious.
- drngdds 8y ago
  I find that the ability to search through all available actions with Ctrl+shift+P makes things very discoverable.
Zaskoda 8y ago
As a Linux user, MS Code is one of my favorite MS products.
- robbick 8y ago
  As a Windows user VS Code is my favourite MS product
fermienrico 8y ago
Can someone recommend a good tutorial on getting started with VSCode? I downloaded it and it feels overwhelming to develop C/C++ code compared to Sublime Text. ST has simple build system (just path to compiler) and it runs out of the box. With VSCode, there are extensions and .json files for configuration and it is all extremely complex and overwhelming.
- WorldMaker 8y ago
  One place to start is that the official docs do have some per-language guides. The C++ guide: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/cpp https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/cpp
ocardoso 8y ago
Did you guys noticed the Marie Kondo reference?
- evansj 8y ago
  I also saw a sneaky reference to Brazil (the film)
- night815 8y ago
  She keeps popping up: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1090617583433404416 https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1090617583433404416
olliej 8y ago
Have they fixed keyboard shortcuts to actually match OS X shortcut semantics? Eg cmd-f/g not focusing the search field? Or using the system search text properly? (Cmd e iirc - I thought about it so that memory is now gone :) )
hsbaut76 8y ago
Vscode is great, but it's a pitty they are running it on electron. 1.3GB of RAM usage for a 8GB machine is not efficient at all. I switched to sublime3 because of this, sublime is great, really fast, only uses 300mb of RAM, unfortunately the packages and plugins aren't as streamlined as vscode. Hoping they improve this.
- bishala 8y ago
  I think this is only a problem when working unplugged. I have visual studio code sitting idle all the time and it really doesn't seem to slow down my system. It generally only uses about 500MB of RAM with two windows open with multiple tabs on each. I have 16GB of RAM but thats not much compared to today's standards. Sublime text using 300mb of RAM is a little odd. Generally in my case, its uses around 20-25MB with 50+ tabs opened.
  - hsbaut76 8y ago
    Yeah, you are right. Sublime uses about 30MB for me after testing

74 points by keybits 8y ago

I tried VS Code early on and decided I'd give it a serious shot when I could modify the color scheme without having to go through a whole page of notes, download and install something like 3 other programs and practically learn a whole new language. Is that possible yet? In other words, is there an actual GUI for configuring color, or at least a config file that's not some cryptic format for a program I've never used?

ConceptJunkie 8y ago
I know I'm probably exaggerating quite a bit, but I literally couldn't figure out how to do it after wasting a fair bit of time and gave up. I was raised in the era of "programmer editors" like Brief and Multi-edit (the latter of which I still use) and those were always extremely easy to configure and enhance without having to use a bunch of external tools.
ch_123 8y ago
Yes - https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/themes https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/getstarted/themes (I also recall the process being rather user-unfriendly in earlier versions)

myfonj 8y ago

Fun fact: this is the first stable version that can start even without internet (LAN) connection on latest Windows 10 update 1809. (Mentioned as first Notable fix [0], fixed by updating Electron to v3.) https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_31#_notable-fixes https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_31#_notable-fixes

fartcannon 8y ago

Hey folks, don't forget that these guys still do this: https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/3093 https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/3093 https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/10497 https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/10497

paulddraper 8y ago
??? The article is for microsoft/vscode. Your links are for dotnet/cli.
- fartcannon 8y ago
  It's Microsoft telemetry in an open source project that doesn't respect the setting set by the user. The lack of a reply as to why should probably set off some alarms for the average tech user when it comes to any project with Microsoft telemetry in it.

minionslave 8y ago

At this point I am 100% sure, VS code will become a IDE like Visual Studio.

azhenley 8y ago
Is that bad? As long as it remains fast and easy to use, I am happy!
mikece 8y ago
If they ever add a visual editor that could be true. Still tons of thing Visual Studio does that VS Code doesn't.
- Kiro 8y ago
  Like what? Never used Visual Studio.
  - azhenley 8y ago
    A lot of debugging and profiling features.
2bitencryption 8y ago
I think the key is that it has the potential to be a great platform. The text-editing "fundamentals" are covered by the Monaco engine. The rest is covered by extensions. Out of the box, it's not much more than a glorified Notepad. Add some extensions and suddenly I'm stepping through my Rust breakpoints and inspecting values.
- parvenu74 8y ago
  The language server protocol (LSP) is a massive leap forward. And unlike the Microsoft of Ballmer, LSP is an open standard that any editor designer can implement.
  - mr_overalls 8y ago

2bitencryption 8y ago

VS Code always has such wonderful release notes. I don't think I use 10% of the features mentioned, but I love reading about them and learning about them in these notes anyway.

mikece 8y ago

Not reloading when adding an extension is a long-overdue feature, in my opinion. What were the technical reasons for needed to reload?

mpartel 8y ago
It's easier to write correct code when you know certain state changes always entail a full reload. Extension installs are rare enough and VSCode reloads quick enough that the tradeoff seems sensible. This change introduces a new "extensions changed" event that extension points must (correctly) implement, so the cost is more code i.e. more opportunity for bugs. The essential question is of course, how much more, and I have no answer to that.

Scarbutt 8y ago

This allows you to create a VS Code terminal panel, which occupies the complete editor area as shown below: Emphasis on: which occupies the complete editor area as shown below: So finally windows has a decent terminal emulator, will install vscode just for this next time I'm on windows.

xnyan 8y ago
It's using xterm.js which has limitations on windows, for example PowerShell/cmd.exe will report mouse movement and I have not been able to get xterm.js based terminal emulators (vs code, hyper) to do the same.

gigatexal 8y ago

It’s still from a UI/UX perspective needlessly complicated. I wish they would make things a bit more obvious.

drngdds 8y ago
I find that the ability to search through all available actions with Ctrl+shift+P makes things very discoverable.

Zaskoda 8y ago

As a Linux user, MS Code is one of my favorite MS products.

robbick 8y ago
As a Windows user VS Code is my favourite MS product

fermienrico 8y ago

Can someone recommend a good tutorial on getting started with VSCode? I downloaded it and it feels overwhelming to develop C/C++ code compared to Sublime Text. ST has simple build system (just path to compiler) and it runs out of the box. With VSCode, there are extensions and .json files for configuration and it is all extremely complex and overwhelming.

WorldMaker 8y ago
One place to start is that the official docs do have some per-language guides. The C++ guide: https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/cpp https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/languages/cpp

ocardoso 8y ago

Did you guys noticed the Marie Kondo reference?

evansj 8y ago
I also saw a sneaky reference to Brazil (the film)
night815 8y ago
She keeps popping up: https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1090617583433404416 https://twitter.com/iamdevloper/status/1090617583433404416

olliej 8y ago

Have they fixed keyboard shortcuts to actually match OS X shortcut semantics? Eg cmd-f/g not focusing the search field? Or using the system search text properly? (Cmd e iirc - I thought about it so that memory is now gone :) )

hsbaut76 8y ago

Vscode is great, but it's a pitty they are running it on electron. 1.3GB of RAM usage for a 8GB machine is not efficient at all. I switched to sublime3 because of this, sublime is great, really fast, only uses 300mb of RAM, unfortunately the packages and plugins aren't as streamlined as vscode. Hoping they improve this.

bishala 8y ago
I think this is only a problem when working unplugged. I have visual studio code sitting idle all the time and it really doesn't seem to slow down my system. It generally only uses about 500MB of RAM with two windows open with multiple tabs on each. I have 16GB of RAM but thats not much compared to today's standards. Sublime text using 300mb of RAM is a little odd. Generally in my case, its uses around 20-25MB with 50+ tabs opened.
- hsbaut76 8y ago
  Yeah, you are right. Sublime uses about 30MB for me after testing