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I have high confidence that Verizon will continue to offer fiber at my house for years to come. “Will Verizon decide to stop serving this place?” was not a ques

I have high confidence that Verizon will continue to offer fiber at my house for years to come. “Will Verizon decide to stop serving this place?” was not a question I had to ask when looking for a place to live. Expecting some stability isn’t about loyalty, it’s just good business. Google is going to start scaring people away from stuff they actually want to sell if they have a history of abandoning things.

maxxxxx 8y ago
I was thinking about Google Project Fi but not anymore.
- mikelward 8y ago
  Worst case, Google Fi is discontinued. Then you find another provider and port your number.
  - deleted 8y ago
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  - JohnTHaller 8y ago
    Unless your Google Wallet is disabled, in which case your Google Fi account ends up in arrears and you lose your number. Google Fi can only be paid for with Google Wallet, nothing else. Google Wallet is a separate team from Google Fi.
    - meko 8y ago
      Is that some hidden layer thing? Because I've had fi for a little over three years and never once messed with google wallet.
inferiorhuman 8y ago
Moreover the legacy stuff is heavily regulated, in part, so that the telco can't suddenly decide to pack up and leave.
- mikeash 8y ago
  Stuff that isn’t heavily regulated still works this way. I’m pretty confident that my pest control company will be around for a while. If there’s a problem with my HVAC system, I know I’ll be able to call the people who installed it. The company I bought my cars from will be selling cars for a long time. And I could go on. Google has the right to do this, but they’re starting to gain a reputation for it and that’s not going to be good for them.
  - inferiorhuman 8y ago
    > Stuff that isn’t heavily regulated still works this way. No it doesn't. That pest control company may pack up and leave (although this is admittedly unlikely), but AT&T and Verizon are legally obligated to offer POTS service.
    - mikeash 8y ago
      You say “no it doesn’t” and then immediately agree with me. The fact that it’s unlikely they’ll pack up and leave is what I’m talking about here. And I’m not talking about POTS service. I don’t have it.
      - inferiorhuman 8y ago
        Unlikely and unable are two different things.
        mikeash 8y ago
        Ok? I said nothing about being unable to leave.
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    > Google has the right to do this, but they’re starting to gain a reputation for it. Starting? It's been a running joke around certain communities (including this one) for years and years. I don't use anything from Google I'd consider critical if there is a reasonable competitor. Say what you want about Microsoft they generally don't just chop you off at the knee's (I mean they've done it but not in the way google does).
gowld 8y ago
Does Verizon offer fiber in Louisville? Google Fiber was more about scaring ISPs into investing in fiber, than serving its own fiber. Once bribery and lawsuits failed to stop Google Fiber, ISPs started to compete. https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/07/21/how-google-fiber-won-by-failing/ https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/07/21/how-google-fiber-wo...
- Corrado 8y ago
  Verizon doesn't really offer fiber in Louisville, it does have a presence but its not large at all (~3 neighborhoods). AT&T ramped up their fiber roll-out here over the last two years and have made great progress; I am currently on their 1GB fiber plan and am enjoying the speed and prices. However, with this latest Google announcement I'm fearful that the AT&T expansion will end and the prices will rise. Hell, Louisville is in the list of cities announced for AT&T 5G service, but you can't actually purchase it today and now I'm not sure if it will ever arrive. I'm really not loving Google today.

maxxxxx 8y ago

I was thinking about Google Project Fi but not anymore.

mikelward 8y ago
Worst case, Google Fi is discontinued. Then you find another provider and port your number.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- JohnTHaller 8y ago
  Unless your Google Wallet is disabled, in which case your Google Fi account ends up in arrears and you lose your number. Google Fi can only be paid for with Google Wallet, nothing else. Google Wallet is a separate team from Google Fi.
  - meko 8y ago
    Is that some hidden layer thing? Because I've had fi for a little over three years and never once messed with google wallet.

inferiorhuman 8y ago

Moreover the legacy stuff is heavily regulated, in part, so that the telco can't suddenly decide to pack up and leave.

mikeash 8y ago
Stuff that isn’t heavily regulated still works this way. I’m pretty confident that my pest control company will be around for a while. If there’s a problem with my HVAC system, I know I’ll be able to call the people who installed it. The company I bought my cars from will be selling cars for a long time. And I could go on. Google has the right to do this, but they’re starting to gain a reputation for it and that’s not going to be good for them.
- inferiorhuman 8y ago
  > Stuff that isn’t heavily regulated still works this way. No it doesn't. That pest control company may pack up and leave (although this is admittedly unlikely), but AT&T and Verizon are legally obligated to offer POTS service.
  - mikeash 8y ago
    You say “no it doesn’t” and then immediately agree with me. The fact that it’s unlikely they’ll pack up and leave is what I’m talking about here. And I’m not talking about POTS service. I don’t have it.
    - inferiorhuman 8y ago
      Unlikely and unable are two different things.
      - mikeash 8y ago
        Ok? I said nothing about being unable to leave.
- noir_lord 8y ago
  > Google has the right to do this, but they’re starting to gain a reputation for it. Starting? It's been a running joke around certain communities (including this one) for years and years. I don't use anything from Google I'd consider critical if there is a reasonable competitor. Say what you want about Microsoft they generally don't just chop you off at the knee's (I mean they've done it but not in the way google does).

gowld 8y ago

Does Verizon offer fiber in Louisville? Google Fiber was more about scaring ISPs into investing in fiber, than serving its own fiber. Once bribery and lawsuits failed to stop Google Fiber, ISPs started to compete. https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/07/21/how-google-fiber-won-by-failing/ https://thenextweb.com/google/2017/07/21/how-google-fiber-wo...

Corrado 8y ago
Verizon doesn't really offer fiber in Louisville, it does have a presence but its not large at all (~3 neighborhoods). AT&T ramped up their fiber roll-out here over the last two years and have made great progress; I am currently on their 1GB fiber plan and am enjoying the speed and prices. However, with this latest Google announcement I'm fearful that the AT&T expansion will end and the prices will rise. Hell, Louisville is in the list of cities announced for AT&T 5G service, but you can't actually purchase it today and now I'm not sure if it will ever arrive. I'm really not loving Google today.