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I can't trust Google. Every time they build something good (Reader, Inbox) eventually they will kill it even despite users clearly opposing the decision. And th

I can't trust Google. Every time they build something good (Reader, Inbox) eventually they will kill it even despite users clearly opposing the decision. And those are just web pages, here they're denying of ISP whole town which was serviced before. So for example how can I use their e-sim provider Fi if I know for sure in one of my travels I will get a notification 'we are closing Fi next week. Find new provider.'. I use their Photos service extensively. But in a couple of years I know it will get closed too, once they fully used it's capacities for training internal ML models.

hk__2 8y ago
> Every time they build something good (Reader, Inbox) eventually they will kill it even despite users clearly opposing the decision. To be fair, users aren’t customers. People don’t have any right regarding your product if you give them for free.
- maxxxxx 8y ago
  This is getting old.
- andrewla 8y ago
  Those are by analogy, but in the case of Fiber, which we're talking about here, the users are customers. So what rights do they have now?
  - mmmmmmmmm 8y ago
    They have the same rights they've always had. They'll just purchase internet from a different ISP.
- apexalpha 8y ago
  Thank god we have GDPR in the EU so you absolutely can't use this argument anymore. It's both wrong and a failure to engage in a meaningful debate about one of the biggest companies of our time and how they treat and value their customers / users.
- tanilama 8y ago
  There are survey companies out there paying people to offer their opinions on various stuff. Google gets this for free. Yes, you can see Google users aren't customers, they are more like unaware/unpaid workers, providing free tuning service to Google's always hungry data analytic engine.
hugh4life 8y ago
Inoreader just changed their plan basically nurfing their free plan... I'd really love google reader to make a comeback. The also got rid of discussion and blog search which along with getting rid of google reader helped accelerate the siloization of the internet.
bagacrap 8y ago
Nothing with a lot of users is ever going to be shut down (most features of inbox are ported back to Gmail so that one doesn't count imo). Therefore I wouldn't worry about photos. You can help dredging up Reader for decades if it makes you feel better, but that was clearly a fringe product and the fact that no clear alternative arose to replace it testifies to the fact that it represented a pretty small/unprofitable market.

hk__2 8y ago

> Every time they build something good (Reader, Inbox) eventually they will kill it even despite users clearly opposing the decision. To be fair, users aren’t customers. People don’t have any right regarding your product if you give them for free.

maxxxxx 8y ago
This is getting old.
andrewla 8y ago
Those are by analogy, but in the case of Fiber, which we're talking about here, the users are customers. So what rights do they have now?
- mmmmmmmmm 8y ago
  They have the same rights they've always had. They'll just purchase internet from a different ISP.
apexalpha 8y ago
Thank god we have GDPR in the EU so you absolutely can't use this argument anymore. It's both wrong and a failure to engage in a meaningful debate about one of the biggest companies of our time and how they treat and value their customers / users.
tanilama 8y ago
There are survey companies out there paying people to offer their opinions on various stuff. Google gets this for free. Yes, you can see Google users aren't customers, they are more like unaware/unpaid workers, providing free tuning service to Google's always hungry data analytic engine.

hugh4life 8y ago

Inoreader just changed their plan basically nurfing their free plan... I'd really love google reader to make a comeback. The also got rid of discussion and blog search which along with getting rid of google reader helped accelerate the siloization of the internet.

bagacrap 8y ago

Nothing with a lot of users is ever going to be shut down (most features of inbox are ported back to Gmail so that one doesn't count imo). Therefore I wouldn't worry about photos. You can help dredging up Reader for decades if it makes you feel better, but that was clearly a fringe product and the fact that no clear alternative arose to replace it testifies to the fact that it represented a pretty small/unprofitable market.