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I think a RX580 or Nvidia 1060 is still perfectly great for modern gaming and can be picked up for $200 or less.

holtalanm 8y ago
rx 580 8GB is good. the 4GB version is lagging behind a little -- VRAM spills into system RAM regularly. I assume the 1060 3GB has a similar problem. source: I have a 4GB and am currently saving up to upgrade. edit: also, the rx 580 4GB generally runs at a lower clock than the 8GB counterpart, which affects performance, as well.
- skohan 8y ago
  Which titles are using more than 4GB these days?
  - dragontamer 8y ago
    https://techreport.com/r.x/2019_02_06_AMD_s_Radeon_VII_graphics_card_reviewed/memory.jpg https://techreport.com/r.x/2019_02_06_AMD_s_Radeon_VII_graph... Seems to be a VRAM-based calculation. There have been some youtubers looking into the "pop in" effect on GPUs with less VRAM. Basically, GPUs will render images at a lower texture level if the texture wasn't fitting in VRAM. So the failure case is pretty smooth these days and hard to notice. Basically, the mountain range in the background may only be a 2k texture, but may pop into a 4k texture after a bit. Because the 2k texture is a mipmap of the 4k texture, its actually hard to notice. So you can stretch lower VRAM Settings these days better than you'd expect. Another thing: just because VRam is allocated doesn't necessarily mean that the VRAM is being used. If you look at a wall in any video game, all the textures are going unused. Taken to the extreme: there are people and objects "behind" a lot of geometries that you'll never see in the game, but will be allocated to VRAM. As such, a game may allocate 9GB total, but not really need the last 2 or 3 GB. So even if a game reports 9GB or 10GB of usage, you may get by with a 8GB card. ------------- In any case, we're long past the 4GB of RAM mark. Practically speaking, games require 6GB at least and may break 8GB in the near future IMO. 8GB seems to be sufficient for now though (thanks to pop-in, VRAM overallocation, etc. etc.)
  - holtalanm 8y ago
    destiny 2, for one, will run over 4GB VRAM on high settings. the new resident evil easily runs over 4GB VRAM on high settings. Apex Legends recommends an 8GB card because on max textures it will use more than 4GB. there are a lot of modern titles that will allocate/use more than 4GB VRAM.
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floatboth 8y ago
Yep, used 480/580 are an incredible deal right now. And perfectly adequate even for higher resolutions if you know what you're doing (disable MSAA, SSR, etc. depending on the game) and not always playing the latest most demanding overrated AAA stuff
skohan 8y ago
Heck I'm doing fine with an RX 380. I was expecting it to be a problem by now, but I still haven't found something I can't play if I'm willing to fiddle with the settings.
- criley2 8y ago
  I have a RX 390 and it is certainly an issue on most modern games. If I set a game to low or medium, I can probably maintain 30-40FPS. The idea of achieving a constant 60fps @ 1080p with this RX 390 on any graphically intensive game made in the last 3-4 years is a pipe dream though, even at low graphical settings. Monster Hunter World is an example of a title which was made for better hardware. On the other hand, Assassin's Creed Odyssey runs pretty well. I've just gotten used to decent graphics at 30-40fps, and I can eek out a mostly constant 60fps on games like Rocket League where it matters (with only some dips)
  - skohan 8y ago
    I guess it depends on what your definition of "an issue" is. Mostly I don't measure FPS at all, and I will only adjust settings if the frame-rate is perceptibly choppy. So for example I recently installed Far Cry 5, and since it has an FPS counter in the corner by default I know it runs between 40-50 FPS at 1080p, with nice effects like volumetric lighting. For me that's fine.
  - robdachshund 8y ago
    I don't know what you are doing wrong but my 280 is still going strong at 1080p. I can run at least medium on the newest stuff and usually get 60fps if not more.
kyriakos 8y ago
Recently bought an RX580 for 200 euro. Amazing value to price. For 1080p gaming i still haven't found any titles that make it feel slow. Essentially GPU prices always had an exponentially increasing price to performance ratio so the 1060 and RX580 are the current sweet spot.
mrguyorama 8y ago
I use an 8gb 580 to VR game, and it is phenomenal. Every game at at least 1.5 supersampling, maintain 90fps, even running hardware encoded video capture in the background.

rx 580 8GB is good. the 4GB version is lagging behind a little -- VRAM spills into system RAM regularly. I assume the 1060 3GB has a similar problem. source: I have a 4GB and am currently saving up to upgrade. edit: also, the rx 580 4GB generally runs at a lower clock than the 8GB counterpart, which affects performance, as well.

skohan 8y ago
Which titles are using more than 4GB these days?
- dragontamer 8y ago
  https://techreport.com/r.x/2019_02_06_AMD_s_Radeon_VII_graphics_card_reviewed/memory.jpg https://techreport.com/r.x/2019_02_06_AMD_s_Radeon_VII_graph... Seems to be a VRAM-based calculation. There have been some youtubers looking into the "pop in" effect on GPUs with less VRAM. Basically, GPUs will render images at a lower texture level if the texture wasn't fitting in VRAM. So the failure case is pretty smooth these days and hard to notice. Basically, the mountain range in the background may only be a 2k texture, but may pop into a 4k texture after a bit. Because the 2k texture is a mipmap of the 4k texture, its actually hard to notice. So you can stretch lower VRAM Settings these days better than you'd expect. Another thing: just because VRam is allocated doesn't necessarily mean that the VRAM is being used. If you look at a wall in any video game, all the textures are going unused. Taken to the extreme: there are people and objects "behind" a lot of geometries that you'll never see in the game, but will be allocated to VRAM. As such, a game may allocate 9GB total, but not really need the last 2 or 3 GB. So even if a game reports 9GB or 10GB of usage, you may get by with a 8GB card. ------------- In any case, we're long past the 4GB of RAM mark. Practically speaking, games require 6GB at least and may break 8GB in the near future IMO. 8GB seems to be sufficient for now though (thanks to pop-in, VRAM overallocation, etc. etc.)
- holtalanm 8y ago
  destiny 2, for one, will run over 4GB VRAM on high settings. the new resident evil easily runs over 4GB VRAM on high settings. Apex Legends recommends an 8GB card because on max textures it will use more than 4GB. there are a lot of modern titles that will allocate/use more than 4GB VRAM.
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floatboth 8y ago

Yep, used 480/580 are an incredible deal right now. And perfectly adequate even for higher resolutions if you know what you're doing (disable MSAA, SSR, etc. depending on the game) and not always playing the latest most demanding overrated AAA stuff

skohan 8y ago

Heck I'm doing fine with an RX 380. I was expecting it to be a problem by now, but I still haven't found something I can't play if I'm willing to fiddle with the settings.

criley2 8y ago
I have a RX 390 and it is certainly an issue on most modern games. If I set a game to low or medium, I can probably maintain 30-40FPS. The idea of achieving a constant 60fps @ 1080p with this RX 390 on any graphically intensive game made in the last 3-4 years is a pipe dream though, even at low graphical settings. Monster Hunter World is an example of a title which was made for better hardware. On the other hand, Assassin's Creed Odyssey runs pretty well. I've just gotten used to decent graphics at 30-40fps, and I can eek out a mostly constant 60fps on games like Rocket League where it matters (with only some dips)
- skohan 8y ago
  I guess it depends on what your definition of "an issue" is. Mostly I don't measure FPS at all, and I will only adjust settings if the frame-rate is perceptibly choppy. So for example I recently installed Far Cry 5, and since it has an FPS counter in the corner by default I know it runs between 40-50 FPS at 1080p, with nice effects like volumetric lighting. For me that's fine.
- robdachshund 8y ago
  I don't know what you are doing wrong but my 280 is still going strong at 1080p. I can run at least medium on the newest stuff and usually get 60fps if not more.

kyriakos 8y ago

Recently bought an RX580 for 200 euro. Amazing value to price. For 1080p gaming i still haven't found any titles that make it feel slow. Essentially GPU prices always had an exponentially increasing price to performance ratio so the 1060 and RX580 are the current sweet spot.

mrguyorama 8y ago

I use an 8gb 580 to VR game, and it is phenomenal. Every game at at least 1.5 supersampling, maintain 90fps, even running hardware encoded video capture in the background.