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This is classic AMD... medium performance for medium pricing.

by WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago

detaro 8y ago
Still kind of shocking that $700 is "medium pricing" now.
- WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
  AMD's pricing tends to tumble kinda quick. Expect a $500 cost in 6 months and $300 in a year. The $700 dollar is probably due to low yields right now.
  - twtw 8y ago
    That's very unlikely. 16 GB of HBM2 alone probably costs AMD around $300, and HBM2 prices are unlikely to fall soon (they've actually been trending up, if what I've read is to be believed).
    - snvzz 8y ago
      Navi is expected by late H1, and at that point VII won't matter.
      - Nursie 8y ago
        Isn't Navi expected to be more of a mid-market Polaris replacement, rather than a Vega successor?
        snvzz 8y ago
        It was about pricing, above. As I understand it, Navi's meant to be very aggressively priced.
  - Nursie 8y ago
    > AMD's pricing tends to tumble kinda quick. Not sure that's really been the case with the Vega Line has it?
    - WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
      Yes, the RX series has been good price cuts. This begs the question of whether the VII is considered a RX series card or Vega card.
    - vonmoltke 8y ago
      The Vegas are currently on sale at Newegg for $100 less than the price quoted in the article. I don't know what their regular price is, though.
- vonmoltke 8y ago
  Yeah, I guess I have to adjust my expectations now. Fortunately, I don't yet have a compelling need to replace my GTX960.
- bloopernova 8y ago
  I splurged last year on a card that could play Elite: Dangerous, DOOM and The Witcher 3 in 4k and spent about that much. Now that card is "medium"? (not that I'm complaining about the onward march of PC gaming demands and power, just that $700 was very much the highest end last year)
  - gameswithgo 8y ago
    If you drop down to 1080p you can save a ton of money and it still looks great. 4k = ~8million pixels 1080p = ~2 million pixels bumping up to 4k is like running the game 4 times at once from a pixel shader perspective
  - skohan 8y ago
    I'm still using an RX 380 (mid-range in 2015), and I'm still able to get quite decent performance on modern games on my 1080p projector. The most recent titles are only in the 40-50 FPS range with settings turned up, but still totally playable. I'm not sure what practical benefit there is to the high-end cards outside of bragging rights.
    - gameswithgo 8y ago
      more winning if you do shooters competitively. but yeah if you are playing single player, 50fps is fine for most people.

This is classic AMD... medium performance for medium pricing.

detaro 8y ago

Still kind of shocking that $700 is "medium pricing" now.

WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
AMD's pricing tends to tumble kinda quick. Expect a $500 cost in 6 months and $300 in a year. The $700 dollar is probably due to low yields right now.
- twtw 8y ago
  That's very unlikely. 16 GB of HBM2 alone probably costs AMD around $300, and HBM2 prices are unlikely to fall soon (they've actually been trending up, if what I've read is to be believed).
  - snvzz 8y ago
    Navi is expected by late H1, and at that point VII won't matter.
    - Nursie 8y ago
      Isn't Navi expected to be more of a mid-market Polaris replacement, rather than a Vega successor?
      - snvzz 8y ago
        It was about pricing, above. As I understand it, Navi's meant to be very aggressively priced.
- Nursie 8y ago
  > AMD's pricing tends to tumble kinda quick. Not sure that's really been the case with the Vega Line has it?
  - WrtCdEvrydy 8y ago
    Yes, the RX series has been good price cuts. This begs the question of whether the VII is considered a RX series card or Vega card.
  - vonmoltke 8y ago
    The Vegas are currently on sale at Newegg for $100 less than the price quoted in the article. I don't know what their regular price is, though.
vonmoltke 8y ago
Yeah, I guess I have to adjust my expectations now. Fortunately, I don't yet have a compelling need to replace my GTX960.
bloopernova 8y ago
I splurged last year on a card that could play Elite: Dangerous, DOOM and The Witcher 3 in 4k and spent about that much. Now that card is "medium"? (not that I'm complaining about the onward march of PC gaming demands and power, just that $700 was very much the highest end last year)
- gameswithgo 8y ago
  If you drop down to 1080p you can save a ton of money and it still looks great. 4k = ~8million pixels 1080p = ~2 million pixels bumping up to 4k is like running the game 4 times at once from a pixel shader perspective
- skohan 8y ago
  I'm still using an RX 380 (mid-range in 2015), and I'm still able to get quite decent performance on modern games on my 1080p projector. The most recent titles are only in the 40-50 FPS range with settings turned up, but still totally playable. I'm not sure what practical benefit there is to the high-end cards outside of bragging rights.
  - gameswithgo 8y ago
    more winning if you do shooters competitively. but yeah if you are playing single player, 50fps is fine for most people.