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So you want to use ad-supported services without feeding the ad-system that keeps the services running? Why do think you have a right to use Google Maps without

So you want to use ad-supported services without feeding the ad-system that keeps the services running? Why do think you have a right to use Google Maps without supporting the underlaying business model?

chewz 8y ago
I have acctually paid for Google Home and for my smartphone. Can you explain how is this add supported deal? Plus I do not object to ads in Maps based on my behaviour in Maps. I do object against that spider's web that Google and FB is building around my entire life.
rsj_hn 8y ago
Google maps can charge for API use. They already do. Services can charge money -- not everything has to be ad supported. Business models aren't inviolate things -- they exploit existing regulations. When the regulations change, then so do the business models.
- RestlessMind 8y ago
  Then why do you use ad-supported services rather than going for the ones which do not collect your data and instead charge you money directly?
  - rsj_hn 8y ago
    Pretty much all services make money from tracking you because it's legal and doesn't cost them anything. Even those that charge. E.g. google maps will charge the vendor and still track the user. A WSJ subscription will still have tracking code and third party js, etc. As long as it's free for the service and there are no penalties, then of course they will try to collect as much data on you as you allow them to collect. But it's your responsibility as an internet user to prevent them from collecting anything that you don't approve of, and to block third parties from injecting their code into your equipment unless you vet that code or otherwise trust it. When stuff like spying and data collection is outlawed, this creates economic room for honest players to participate in honest business practices. We're just not there yet.

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So you want to use ad-supported services without feeding the ad-system that keeps the services running? Why do think you have a right to use Google Maps without

by jasonvorhe 8y ago

chewz 8y ago
I have acctually paid for Google Home and for my smartphone. Can you explain how is this add supported deal? Plus I do not object to ads in Maps based on my behaviour in Maps. I do object against that spider's web that Google and FB is building around my entire life.
rsj_hn 8y ago
Google maps can charge for API use. They already do. Services can charge money -- not everything has to be ad supported. Business models aren't inviolate things -- they exploit existing regulations. When the regulations change, then so do the business models.
- RestlessMind 8y ago
  Then why do you use ad-supported services rather than going for the ones which do not collect your data and instead charge you money directly?
  - rsj_hn 8y ago
    Pretty much all services make money from tracking you because it's legal and doesn't cost them anything. Even those that charge. E.g. google maps will charge the vendor and still track the user. A WSJ subscription will still have tracking code and third party js, etc. As long as it's free for the service and there are no penalties, then of course they will try to collect as much data on you as you allow them to collect. But it's your responsibility as an internet user to prevent them from collecting anything that you don't approve of, and to block third parties from injecting their code into your equipment unless you vet that code or otherwise trust it. When stuff like spying and data collection is outlawed, this creates economic room for honest players to participate in honest business practices. We're just not there yet.