That was down to management though. If they'd been bought by someone with more interest in what engineering were prototyping, I think it could have been saved,

That was down to management though. If they'd been bought by someone with more interest in what engineering were prototyping, I think it could have been saved, even that late. Even prospered with an engineering dept that had a budget. Dave Haynie has written extensively on the C= suicide (as he describes it), I think there's even a few posts on Quora. Lots that might have kept the edge were started, even prototyped and announced to developers. Course once developers start migrating away, it takes far more effort to get them back, if at all.