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What's your basis for claiming that Chinese "culture" supports suppressing information? Last I checked it was the Chinese government (a minority) in order to co

What's your basis for claiming that Chinese "culture" supports suppressing information? Last I checked it was the Chinese government (a minority) in order to consolidate power. Claiming an entire people's culture is based on the actions of their government is flawed. What if we applied the same standard to the US and other Western Nations? PS - Does anyone else find the undercurrent of subtle anti-Chinese racism on this site disturbing? I'm not even from East Asia and I find it deeply distasteful. If you posted some of this stuff about any other nation (or race), it would be [Flag] dead in minutes.

Maskawanian 8y ago
A government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. Whataboutism is not a valid means of argument. Questioning the actions of a group of people is not racism.
- amaccuish 8y ago
  > A government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. I can think of many cases where that isn't the case.
- darkerside 8y ago
  A _democratic_ government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. Hierarchies and law can be imposed on people, whether or not they support or comply with them. Or was slavery a reflection on the enslaved?
- Someone1234 8y ago
  > A government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. In a direct democracy that may be true, but no country I am aware of has one. Most countries vary from representative Democracy up through full Dictatorship, with the wider society having ever less input as you move up the scale. In the Chinese system the government isn't meant to be a reflection of the people's views, the people are meant to be a reflection of the government's system. > Questioning the actions of a group of people is not racism. The whole crux of this isn't that they're criticizing the Chinese government, it is that they're saying a Chinese owned company cannot be trusted because their culture is subpar. If that isn't racism I don't know what it is.
  - Maskawanian 8y ago
    You're telling me that the members of the Chinese government are not Chinese? Is the government run by foreigners? If they are in fact part of their culture, how they act is influenced by their culture. It doesn't matter whether it is a democracy or a dictatorship. If the demonstrated values of a culture that isn't yours do not match up with your values, it is perfectly valid to not want to support those ill-values. That is not racism.
save_ferris 8y ago
That's fair, I was referring to the business culture specifically, which directly reflects the values of the Chinese government.

Maskawanian 8y ago

A government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. Whataboutism is not a valid means of argument. Questioning the actions of a group of people is not racism.

amaccuish 8y ago
> A government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. I can think of many cases where that isn't the case.
darkerside 8y ago
A _democratic_ government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. Hierarchies and law can be imposed on people, whether or not they support or comply with them. Or was slavery a reflection on the enslaved?
Someone1234 8y ago
> A government is a reflection of the people it is comprised of. In a direct democracy that may be true, but no country I am aware of has one. Most countries vary from representative Democracy up through full Dictatorship, with the wider society having ever less input as you move up the scale. In the Chinese system the government isn't meant to be a reflection of the people's views, the people are meant to be a reflection of the government's system. > Questioning the actions of a group of people is not racism. The whole crux of this isn't that they're criticizing the Chinese government, it is that they're saying a Chinese owned company cannot be trusted because their culture is subpar. If that isn't racism I don't know what it is.
- Maskawanian 8y ago
  You're telling me that the members of the Chinese government are not Chinese? Is the government run by foreigners? If they are in fact part of their culture, how they act is influenced by their culture. It doesn't matter whether it is a democracy or a dictatorship. If the demonstrated values of a culture that isn't yours do not match up with your values, it is perfectly valid to not want to support those ill-values. That is not racism.

save_ferris 8y ago

That's fair, I was referring to the business culture specifically, which directly reflects the values of the Chinese government.