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What about Google? (With their Adsense, analytics, email, search ... setup ...)
by chvid 8y ago
What about Google? (With their Adsense, analytics, email, search ... setup ...)
- close04 8y agoI think the main issue is the aggregation between FB and WhatsApp data. FB promised/guaranteed not to do it in order to get the acquisition approved. They have since changed their minds. FB would surely complain if the regulators also changed their minds and declared the acquisition illegal/invalid. > Facebook will no longer be allowed to force its users to agree to the practically unrestricted collection and assigning of non-Facebook data to their Facebook accounts
- abel212 8y agoThey are both in the wrong. But one company's wrongdoing does not invalidate the guilt of another.
- chewz 8y agoI hope Google will also be one day forced to use permissions on per app and per service base. If I want to give Google Maps access to my location it means only Maps and for limited scope not all across Google ecosystem. Android is constantly nagging me to turn on location and wifi scanning for example to use Google Home. It doesn't make sense - they could use SSID of my home wifi to make sure that I am home. Where my home is is not their business.
- jasonvorhe 8y agoSo you want to use ad-supported services without feeding the ad-system that keeps the services running? Why do think you have a right to use Google Maps without supporting the underlaying business model?
- chewz 8y agoI have acctually paid for Google Home and for my smartphone. Can you explain how is this add supported deal? Plus I do not object to ads in Maps based on my behaviour in Maps. I do object against that spider's web that Google and FB is building around my entire life.
- rsj_hn 8y agoGoogle maps can charge for API use. They already do. Services can charge money -- not everything has to be ad supported. Business models aren't inviolate things -- they exploit existing regulations. When the regulations change, then so do the business models.
- RestlessMind 8y agoThen why do you use ad-supported services rather than going for the ones which do not collect your data and instead charge you money directly?
- rsj_hn 8y agoPretty much all services make money from tracking you because it's legal and doesn't cost them anything. Even those that charge. E.g. google maps will charge the vendor and still track the user. A WSJ subscription will still have tracking code and third party js, etc. As long as it's free for the service and there are no penalties, then of course they will try to collect as much data on you as you allow them to collect. But it's your responsibility as an internet user to prevent them from collecting anything that you don't approve of, and to block third parties from injecting their code into your equipment unless you vet that code or otherwise trust it. When stuff like spying and data collection is outlawed, this creates economic room for honest players to participate in honest business practices. We're just not there yet.
- slededit 8y agoThey have one of the worlds most comprehensive maps of SSIDs to location. So even that wouldn’t really prevent them from knowing where you live.
- ionised 8y agoThey'll get their turn, don't worry.