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Yes, James Hansen (ex NASA scientist) warned us in the 80s and has been campaigning for this since. His view seems to be not enough is being done. So how are y

Yes, James Hansen (ex NASA scientist) warned us in the 80s and has been campaigning for this since. His view seems to be not enough is being done. So how are you planning to change your life in the next decade, i.e. are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient (permaculture) as cities will become more dangerous to live in or do you think it will be just a case of food being a bit more expensive and it being a bit hotter. I'm struggling to understand whether near term it will drastically change our lifes or whether it's something to really worry about post 2050.

dagw 8y ago
are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient Isn't that a terrible thing to do from environmental perspective. Surely using that land for smartly run large scale industrial farms that ship their produce to large distribution points in the center of dense cities could produce far more calories pr. total gram of greenhouse gas emitted.
- NeedMoreTea 8y ago
  Yes. I suppose the other way of looking at it is smartly run and managed farms feeding dense cities is a solution for a world where politicians, countries and corporations are doing something substantive about climate change. A world where the supply chains won't break, and the little people won't bear the brunt. In the world we actually occupy, moving to some rural high ground with a few acres, and as off-grid as possible, to weather a possible Mad Max future looks less and less idiotic.
- uxcolumbo 8y ago
  I was thinking more of permaculture [1], which apparently is better for the environment than our current soil degrading farming practices. I'm just trying to understand whether there is a real near term danger that will impact global food security. The US practically pulled out of the paris agreement and do we think the world leaders will take climate change seriously to avert disaster? If not, how will this impact us little people and what should the strategy be. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture
xbmcuser 8y ago
I am in agricultural trade so looking at growing population in Asia/Africa and the crop production fluctuations year to year with the uncertainty that climate change is already bringing 2050 is too far away. By 2050 we might actually have got some workarounds for the problems the world is going to face in term of food shortages etc in 2030-2035. As far as what I am planning to do one of the things I did was I decided not to have kids not because I feel my having children is going to affect carbon production much but because I will be dead and my future children would have to live in the world we will be leaving behind for them.

dagw 8y ago

are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient Isn't that a terrible thing to do from environmental perspective. Surely using that land for smartly run large scale industrial farms that ship their produce to large distribution points in the center of dense cities could produce far more calories pr. total gram of greenhouse gas emitted.

NeedMoreTea 8y ago
Yes. I suppose the other way of looking at it is smartly run and managed farms feeding dense cities is a solution for a world where politicians, countries and corporations are doing something substantive about climate change. A world where the supply chains won't break, and the little people won't bear the brunt. In the world we actually occupy, moving to some rural high ground with a few acres, and as off-grid as possible, to weather a possible Mad Max future looks less and less idiotic.
uxcolumbo 8y ago
I was thinking more of permaculture [1], which apparently is better for the environment than our current soil degrading farming practices. I'm just trying to understand whether there is a real near term danger that will impact global food security. The US practically pulled out of the paris agreement and do we think the world leaders will take climate change seriously to avert disaster? If not, how will this impact us little people and what should the strategy be. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture

xbmcuser 8y ago

I am in agricultural trade so looking at growing population in Asia/Africa and the crop production fluctuations year to year with the uncertainty that climate change is already bringing 2050 is too far away. By 2050 we might actually have got some workarounds for the problems the world is going to face in term of food shortages etc in 2030-2035. As far as what I am planning to do one of the things I did was I decided not to have kids not because I feel my having children is going to affect carbon production much but because I will be dead and my future children would have to live in the world we will be leaving behind for them.