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Ok. So what? Software and services have kept usage metrics and clickstream data for decades. They have privacy policies saying that they may collect data about

Ok. So what? Software and services have kept usage metrics and clickstream data for decades. They have privacy policies saying that they may collect data about how you use their product. This is that data. So, is this a surprise? If you don't want Abercrombie to know which items you looked at, don't look at them on the Abercrombie app, or at the Abercrombie store, or on the Abercrombie website.

yeahSoNah 8y ago
Yeah... but... I didn’t want to have to boycott a company that has something reasonably priced, and worth buying, just because they can’t control themselves, and feel an urgent need to stalk me, and help other stalkers stalk me, and maybe even know enough about me to affect employment opportunities, or help others learn about how much money they can make of me, whether they should insure me, rent an apartment to me, offer lines of credit, help me buy a home or property, offer up granular evidence of my whereabouts, which could inform on me during a forensic investigation, attempt to manipulate me according to sexuality and orientation, pretend their my friend...
millstone 8y ago
Abercrombie's data collection should start and end at the data I choose to send them, including the products I click on. I do not expect Abercrombie to "see what I do in real time," including where I position my mouse on my screen, text I type and then choose to delete, my physical location, etc.
- kkarakk 8y ago
  then goto the mall? except wait, probably tracked on security cam there nowadays + credit card transactions are tracked + tracking movement in the store using multiple wifi APs + tracking what you purchase internally. the expectation of privacy when dealing with a business that can monetise the data about you in some way may be a dead thing already until the govt gets involved.
  - calgoo 8y ago
    Its only dead because people choose to give up. If we don't fight it at every turn, we will keep on living in this dystopian future. The government will never step in to protect you as they want as much of this information as possible. We have already seen how politicians try to abuse any possible thing they can to get more power and/or win elections. We need the engineers in the these companies to join the fight, refuse to install or add these features. If that impossible because there are many people who don't see this as a corrupt practice, then we need others to step up and help block and expose it. Please don't give up on privacy or freedoms, that just dooms us more.
  - SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
    This is an explanation but definitely not a justification.

yeahSoNah 8y ago

Yeah... but... I didn’t want to have to boycott a company that has something reasonably priced, and worth buying, just because they can’t control themselves, and feel an urgent need to stalk me, and help other stalkers stalk me, and maybe even know enough about me to affect employment opportunities, or help others learn about how much money they can make of me, whether they should insure me, rent an apartment to me, offer lines of credit, help me buy a home or property, offer up granular evidence of my whereabouts, which could inform on me during a forensic investigation, attempt to manipulate me according to sexuality and orientation, pretend their my friend...

millstone 8y ago

Abercrombie's data collection should start and end at the data I choose to send them, including the products I click on. I do not expect Abercrombie to "see what I do in real time," including where I position my mouse on my screen, text I type and then choose to delete, my physical location, etc.

kkarakk 8y ago
then goto the mall? except wait, probably tracked on security cam there nowadays + credit card transactions are tracked + tracking movement in the store using multiple wifi APs + tracking what you purchase internally. the expectation of privacy when dealing with a business that can monetise the data about you in some way may be a dead thing already until the govt gets involved.
- calgoo 8y ago
  Its only dead because people choose to give up. If we don't fight it at every turn, we will keep on living in this dystopian future. The government will never step in to protect you as they want as much of this information as possible. We have already seen how politicians try to abuse any possible thing they can to get more power and/or win elections. We need the engineers in the these companies to join the fight, refuse to install or add these features. If that impossible because there are many people who don't see this as a corrupt practice, then we need others to step up and help block and expose it. Please don't give up on privacy or freedoms, that just dooms us more.
- SmellyGeekBoy 8y ago
  This is an explanation but definitely not a justification.