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Under current Democratic party norms: yes.

happytoexplain 8y ago
I find it hard to believe this curt post portrays your real intellectual opinion, as opposed to your emotional feelings. It just seems like shit stirring.
- pnw_hazor 8y ago
  It is pretty clear that new wave Democrats (e.g., Justice Democrats, or the like) are more than willing to consider any billionaire immoral because they are billionaires. At least that is what their most prominent pols say.
  - Rapzid 8y ago
    That's... The opposite of clear. It's not Billionaires that are on trial, it's the system. Billionaires are the symptom. You may not agree with that, but that's what's going around.
Gustomaximus 8y ago
Do you really believe this? The democrats are on the whole not against billionaires, there is simply an increase in popularity to make billionaire pay more tax. Something closer to historical levels no less. Then people make comments like this and try and things into a storm in a teacup....I wonder if this is how they truly see the policy or its just cheap internet comments.
- pnw_hazor 8y ago
  I only know what I read. "Coates followed up: "I hate to personalize this, but do you think it is moral for individuals to, for instance—do we live in a moral world that allows for billionaires? Is that a moral outcome?" The answer from the congresswoman [AOC] was emphatic and came without any hesitation. "No, it's not. It's not. It's not. And I think it's important to say that." https://reason.com/archives/2019/01/28/are-billionaires-immoral-democrats-ask https://reason.com/archives/2019/01/28/are-billionaires-immo... "Technology executives and venture capitalist have also expressed increasing concern in the past few weeks about Democrats’ denigration of business leaders, said Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), whose district includes Silicon Valley." “It should come as no surprise that a few billionaires want to continue to hoard as much wealth as possible, increasing their corrupting influence over our political system,” said Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.)." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/wave-of-tax-proposals-has-caught-wealthy-liberals-off-guard--but-they-may-not-be-able-to-stop-them/2019/02/06/0d3824e6-2a31-11e9-b011-d8500644dc98_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5f8b672cdb5e https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/wave-of-tax-... edit: added [AOC} to make it clear which congress member was speaking to Coates.
  - boardwaalk 8y ago
    If you read your own quote from Coates, he reformulates his question midstream. Is a world with billionaires moral? Is that a moral outcome? He's not asking if billionaires are moral people. That's not the same question.
    - Gustomaximus 8y ago
      The bigger point is how they take the statement of one person and make out like is applies to the group. Anyone can twist an arguement to any POV like this. Its cheap debate method and seems typically fanatics trying to avoid reality of a reasonable conversation on a topic.
masonic 8y ago
AOC aside, there's also Obama's famous "you didn't build that" monologue.

I find it hard to believe this curt post portrays your real intellectual opinion, as opposed to your emotional feelings. It just seems like shit stirring.

pnw_hazor 8y ago
It is pretty clear that new wave Democrats (e.g., Justice Democrats, or the like) are more than willing to consider any billionaire immoral because they are billionaires. At least that is what their most prominent pols say.
- Rapzid 8y ago
  That's... The opposite of clear. It's not Billionaires that are on trial, it's the system. Billionaires are the symptom. You may not agree with that, but that's what's going around.

Gustomaximus 8y ago

Do you really believe this? The democrats are on the whole not against billionaires, there is simply an increase in popularity to make billionaire pay more tax. Something closer to historical levels no less. Then people make comments like this and try and things into a storm in a teacup....I wonder if this is how they truly see the policy or its just cheap internet comments.

pnw_hazor 8y ago
I only know what I read. "Coates followed up: "I hate to personalize this, but do you think it is moral for individuals to, for instance—do we live in a moral world that allows for billionaires? Is that a moral outcome?" The answer from the congresswoman [AOC] was emphatic and came without any hesitation. "No, it's not. It's not. It's not. And I think it's important to say that." https://reason.com/archives/2019/01/28/are-billionaires-immoral-democrats-ask https://reason.com/archives/2019/01/28/are-billionaires-immo... "Technology executives and venture capitalist have also expressed increasing concern in the past few weeks about Democrats’ denigration of business leaders, said Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.), whose district includes Silicon Valley." “It should come as no surprise that a few billionaires want to continue to hoard as much wealth as possible, increasing their corrupting influence over our political system,” said Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Minn.)." https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/wave-of-tax-proposals-has-caught-wealthy-liberals-off-guard--but-they-may-not-be-able-to-stop-them/2019/02/06/0d3824e6-2a31-11e9-b011-d8500644dc98_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5f8b672cdb5e https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/wave-of-tax-... edit: added [AOC} to make it clear which congress member was speaking to Coates.
- boardwaalk 8y ago
  If you read your own quote from Coates, he reformulates his question midstream. Is a world with billionaires moral? Is that a moral outcome? He's not asking if billionaires are moral people. That's not the same question.
  - Gustomaximus 8y ago
    The bigger point is how they take the statement of one person and make out like is applies to the group. Anyone can twist an arguement to any POV like this. Its cheap debate method and seems typically fanatics trying to avoid reality of a reasonable conversation on a topic.

masonic 8y ago

AOC aside, there's also Obama's famous "you didn't build that" monologue.