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I don't think it's possible to have a closed source language in 2019 :) It will be released with an open source this year.

User23 8y ago
Technically (and we are technical folks) it's a language with a closed source reference implementation. A serious language designer is going to specify his language, so that other implementations, closed or open source, are possible if not available. C is the ur-example, there are dozens of implementations, some proprietary and some free.
- amedvednikov 8y ago
  There's no reference implementation yet. I had a small page about the language up. I don't have some of the most basic things implemented and figured out yet.
  - User23 8y ago
    I’m very happy to see that you’re doing this. Keep at it!
- iainmerrick 8y ago
  We aren’t in a phase where languages have multiple implementations right now. I can’t think of any well-known newish language (created in the last 10 years, say) with multiple implementations. Rust, Kotlin, Swift, Julia, Dart... any others? Go might be a counterexample with its cgo implementation, but that was built by the same team and I have the impression (maybe mistaken) that it’s fallen by the wayside. I don’t know if this indicates a really new language development style, with less emphasis on specification, or if it’s just a cyclic thing and some of these new languages will gain more implementations as they get more established.
  - kupiakos 8y ago
    Python has PyPy?
    - iainmerrick 8y ago
      Python isn’t new! It’s almost 30 years old.
      - kupiakos 8y ago
        I was about to suggest Python 3, but it seems Python 3.0 released December 3, 2008. Barely missed it!
  - heinrich5991 8y ago
    https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc is an alternative compiler for Rust.
    - iainmerrick 8y ago
      Cool! Looks like that’s not quite ready for prime time, but I hope it succeeds.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      Yeah, but no language of the ones the parent mentioned has a non-toy, non-personal-project alternative compiler. Perhaps only Golang (go and go-gcc). For all others, everybody uses the standard compiler. Even in Python, PyPy is not even 10% of the users. Whereas in C/C++ and other such older languages there are several implementation (MS, GCC, LLVM, Borland, Intel) with strong uptake and strong communities/companies behind them.
      - nicoburns 8y ago
        JavaScript isn't quite as new as those listed, but it has at least 5 or 6 implementations.

User23 8y ago

Technically (and we are technical folks) it's a language with a closed source reference implementation. A serious language designer is going to specify his language, so that other implementations, closed or open source, are possible if not available. C is the ur-example, there are dozens of implementations, some proprietary and some free.

amedvednikov 8y ago
There's no reference implementation yet. I had a small page about the language up. I don't have some of the most basic things implemented and figured out yet.
- User23 8y ago
  I’m very happy to see that you’re doing this. Keep at it!
iainmerrick 8y ago
We aren’t in a phase where languages have multiple implementations right now. I can’t think of any well-known newish language (created in the last 10 years, say) with multiple implementations. Rust, Kotlin, Swift, Julia, Dart... any others? Go might be a counterexample with its cgo implementation, but that was built by the same team and I have the impression (maybe mistaken) that it’s fallen by the wayside. I don’t know if this indicates a really new language development style, with less emphasis on specification, or if it’s just a cyclic thing and some of these new languages will gain more implementations as they get more established.
- kupiakos 8y ago
  Python has PyPy?
  - iainmerrick 8y ago
    Python isn’t new! It’s almost 30 years old.
    - kupiakos 8y ago
      I was about to suggest Python 3, but it seems Python 3.0 released December 3, 2008. Barely missed it!
- heinrich5991 8y ago
  https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc https://github.com/thepowersgang/mrustc is an alternative compiler for Rust.
  - iainmerrick 8y ago
    Cool! Looks like that’s not quite ready for prime time, but I hope it succeeds.
  - coldtea 8y ago
    Yeah, but no language of the ones the parent mentioned has a non-toy, non-personal-project alternative compiler. Perhaps only Golang (go and go-gcc). For all others, everybody uses the standard compiler. Even in Python, PyPy is not even 10% of the users. Whereas in C/C++ and other such older languages there are several implementation (MS, GCC, LLVM, Borland, Intel) with strong uptake and strong communities/companies behind them.
    - nicoburns 8y ago
      JavaScript isn't quite as new as those listed, but it has at least 5 or 6 implementations.