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We currently have a 3-year old who's vaccinated and a 5-month old who isn't because she can't be yet. We also live near the epicenter of this outbreak, and it'

We currently have a 3-year old who's vaccinated and a 5-month old who isn't because she can't be yet. We also live near the epicenter of this outbreak, and it's enormously irritating how grossly irresponsible both lawmakers and people in the community have been around this issue. Some of the kids at our eldest's preschool weren't vaccinated, which by proxy put all the families who also have much younger children at much, much higher risk. Thankfully a responsible amount if peer pressure was able to cajole those families to get their kids vaccinated finally. But, the waves of anti-science BS that we're all wading through are growing in frequency and amplitude, and it's not clear how to ebb it.

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anth_anm 8y ago
> But, the waves of anti-science BS that we're all wading through are growing in frequency and amplitude, and it's not clear how to ebb it. have some rich dumbass's kid die of measles.
- i_feel_great 8y ago
  It is never the child's fault.
  - anth_anm 8y ago
    it's a horrible horrible thing, and I think anti-vaxxer parents are awful people who are putting their kids lives at risk. But I think the only way these people will learn is if some kid they know ends up dead because of their selfishness.
ransom1538 8y ago
"Most of those infected are unvaccinated children under 10, health officials said." Making it worse, the non-vaccinated group also endangers the vaccinated group! Just because your vaccinated doesn't mean it will work. So now with it spreading, there is %5 odds (or whatever the odds are) you get the virus EVEN IF you are vaccinated. So even if you are doing the right thing and ARE vaccinated you are still screwed by these non-vaccers.
masayune 8y ago
The greatest irony is that if an outbreak occurs, the government and public health organizations will somehow be culpable. “You’re making my kids autistic” will quickly morph into “why did you let my child die?”
vegannet 8y ago
I’ve heard that a 5 month old child can be vaccinated (it’s just not standard practice) so in a situation where there are serious concerns about infection you are not without options.
- thomasmeeks 8y ago
  This is true with regards to measles. It is also true that babies tend to have some level of immunity for the first year (assuming their mother is), which is why the vaccine isn't given until the 12 month mark. https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/how-long-do-babies-carry-their-mothers-immunity/ https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/...
  - masonic 8y ago
    (assuming their mother is) Is that conveyed en utero or through the mother's milk? If the latter, that would depend on being breastfed, wouldn't it?

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anth_anm 8y ago

> But, the waves of anti-science BS that we're all wading through are growing in frequency and amplitude, and it's not clear how to ebb it. have some rich dumbass's kid die of measles.

i_feel_great 8y ago
It is never the child's fault.
- anth_anm 8y ago
  it's a horrible horrible thing, and I think anti-vaxxer parents are awful people who are putting their kids lives at risk. But I think the only way these people will learn is if some kid they know ends up dead because of their selfishness.

ransom1538 8y ago

"Most of those infected are unvaccinated children under 10, health officials said." Making it worse, the non-vaccinated group also endangers the vaccinated group! Just because your vaccinated doesn't mean it will work. So now with it spreading, there is %5 odds (or whatever the odds are) you get the virus EVEN IF you are vaccinated. So even if you are doing the right thing and ARE vaccinated you are still screwed by these non-vaccers.

masayune 8y ago

The greatest irony is that if an outbreak occurs, the government and public health organizations will somehow be culpable. “You’re making my kids autistic” will quickly morph into “why did you let my child die?”

vegannet 8y ago

I’ve heard that a 5 month old child can be vaccinated (it’s just not standard practice) so in a situation where there are serious concerns about infection you are not without options.

thomasmeeks 8y ago
This is true with regards to measles. It is also true that babies tend to have some level of immunity for the first year (assuming their mother is), which is why the vaccine isn't given until the 12 month mark. https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/how-long-do-babies-carry-their-mothers-immunity/ https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/childrens-health/...
- masonic 8y ago
  (assuming their mother is) Is that conveyed en utero or through the mother's milk? If the latter, that would depend on being breastfed, wouldn't it?