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As of posting, the info on this site is very lean, but going forward sourcehut seems to be the name for the software suite of the service 'sr.ht'. The linkage i

As of posting, the info on this site is very lean, but going forward sourcehut seems to be the name for the software suite of the service 'sr.ht'. The linkage is implied by the quote on the site that "sr.ht is a hosted instance of sourcehut provided for your convenience". The impetus behind the branding clarification seems to be this HN thread [1]. For more history, see the the debut announcement [2] and its corresponding HN thread [3]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929709#18930413 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18929709#18930413 [2] https://drewdevault.com/2018/11/15/sr.ht-general-availability.html https://drewdevault.com/2018/11/15/sr.ht-general-availabilit... [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18458908 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18458908

vertex-four 8y ago
Seems to be otherwise - https://meta.sr.ht https://meta.sr.ht is now branded as "sourcehut". I'm guessing sourcehut.org is a marketing page while sr.ht continues to be the service domain.
- niftich 8y ago
  Well, the default config itself has been updated with the new name [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] -- this what you'd self-host, and is also what's hosted out of 'sh.rt', but we're splitting hairs to pedantic, and both of us are mostly right. It seems 'sh.rt' will continue to be the service domain while the software (but not the identities of the artifacts) have been renamed for ease, and it's all being done in a way to maximize benefit and minimize breakage. [1] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/man.sr.ht/commit/3341103722219181740a129d5e88b3bb160cd33c https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/man.sr.ht/commit/334110372221918... [2] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/lists.sr.ht/commit/b8016bc1b8e51dd0cf78625ef0cc34eb8b96d57f https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/lists.sr.ht/commit/b8016bc1b8e51... [3] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/builds.sr.ht/commit/0bebfad24973ed242da1a51fc9a83f2647c38a0b https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/builds.sr.ht/commit/0bebfad24973... [4] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/dispatch.sr.ht/commit/5a618375c7b120331c0c3ccfb26dc3b5dc65be98 https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/dispatch.sr.ht/commit/5a618375c7... [5] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/todo.sr.ht/commit/d84ecaa6e4a56b9c00783bd7620cd86057a60e21 https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/todo.sr.ht/commit/d84ecaa6e4a56b... [6] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/meta.sr.ht/commit/1c1931b1307989edb972647b52d0a9c4be819b4b https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/meta.sr.ht/commit/1c1931b1307989... [7] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/hg.sr.ht/commit/09255a6bfe108067bc0df08ce3e3d5b11c3fd1be https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/hg.sr.ht/commit/09255a6bfe108067... [8] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/git.sr.ht/commit/ed9527f23cef223dc1b68ead8116bbddac98d144 https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/git.sr.ht/commit/ed9527f23cef223...
nickpsecurity 8y ago
Definitely glad that he changed it. I was concerned about that holding his growth back when he did the Show on Lobsters. Also, some people can't access sites with weird domains due to corporate firewalls. A .org might prevent that. Looking back at the thread, it looks like the new name was suggested back then by neuromanc: https://lobste.rs/s/cqangw/sr_ht_hacker_s_forge_now_open_for_public#c_cz2pgy https://lobste.rs/s/cqangw/sr_ht_hacker_s_forge_now_open_for... I like how the proposed name fit with the existing one. Good example of backward compatibility, but with project names. ;)
- verall 8y ago
  I imagined someone asked if "sr.ht" was pronounced "sourcehut" and he said "uhhh... Yea!" Funny to see it came from reddit, thanks.
  - bmn__ 8y ago
    lobste.rs ≠ redd.it
sexyrouter 8y ago
I think this is a bad move. There is already: SourceTree SourceView SourceForge TheSource SourceCode SourceDaddy OutSource By adding more "Source", you are just diluting value of source brand. It will be interesting to see how many more "Source" untill we stop using Source at all? Same is the thing with "Git" and Docker escaped this issue by prohibiting use of "Docker" in non docker owned companies.
- baroffoos 8y ago
  GitHub, GitLab, Gitea. Those all work fine. As long as you can easily tell the difference between them.
  - humanrebar 8y ago
    Agreed. Taco Bell, Del Taco, Taco Cabana, Taco Bueno, Del Taco, Fuzzy's Tacos... and it keeps going.
    - Jaruzel 8y ago
      "Taco Bell was the only restaurant to survive the Franchise Wars. Now all restaurants are Taco Bell. "
    - qbaqbaqba 8y ago
      Pizza Hut...
    - wccrawford 8y ago
      My wife still misses Taco Tico, and every time I call some other restaurant that, she's incredibly disappointed. So yeah, there's more to branding than a single word of the name.
- lucideer 8y ago
  > you are just diluting value of source brand "Source" is not the brand, it's the literal description of what most (all?) of these products and services deal with. The prefixes/suffixes make the brand. Having a very relatable/descriptive term like "Source" in that brand adds clarity.

vertex-four 8y ago

Seems to be otherwise - https://meta.sr.ht https://meta.sr.ht is now branded as "sourcehut". I'm guessing sourcehut.org is a marketing page while sr.ht continues to be the service domain.

niftich 8y ago
Well, the default config itself has been updated with the new name [1][2][3][4][5][6][7][8] -- this what you'd self-host, and is also what's hosted out of 'sh.rt', but we're splitting hairs to pedantic, and both of us are mostly right. It seems 'sh.rt' will continue to be the service domain while the software (but not the identities of the artifacts) have been renamed for ease, and it's all being done in a way to maximize benefit and minimize breakage. [1] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/man.sr.ht/commit/3341103722219181740a129d5e88b3bb160cd33c https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/man.sr.ht/commit/334110372221918... [2] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/lists.sr.ht/commit/b8016bc1b8e51dd0cf78625ef0cc34eb8b96d57f https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/lists.sr.ht/commit/b8016bc1b8e51... [3] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/builds.sr.ht/commit/0bebfad24973ed242da1a51fc9a83f2647c38a0b https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/builds.sr.ht/commit/0bebfad24973... [4] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/dispatch.sr.ht/commit/5a618375c7b120331c0c3ccfb26dc3b5dc65be98 https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/dispatch.sr.ht/commit/5a618375c7... [5] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/todo.sr.ht/commit/d84ecaa6e4a56b9c00783bd7620cd86057a60e21 https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/todo.sr.ht/commit/d84ecaa6e4a56b... [6] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/meta.sr.ht/commit/1c1931b1307989edb972647b52d0a9c4be819b4b https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/meta.sr.ht/commit/1c1931b1307989... [7] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/hg.sr.ht/commit/09255a6bfe108067bc0df08ce3e3d5b11c3fd1be https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/hg.sr.ht/commit/09255a6bfe108067... [8] https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/git.sr.ht/commit/ed9527f23cef223dc1b68ead8116bbddac98d144 https://git.sr.ht/~sircmpwn/git.sr.ht/commit/ed9527f23cef223...

nickpsecurity 8y ago

Definitely glad that he changed it. I was concerned about that holding his growth back when he did the Show on Lobsters. Also, some people can't access sites with weird domains due to corporate firewalls. A .org might prevent that. Looking back at the thread, it looks like the new name was suggested back then by neuromanc: https://lobste.rs/s/cqangw/sr_ht_hacker_s_forge_now_open_for_public#c_cz2pgy https://lobste.rs/s/cqangw/sr_ht_hacker_s_forge_now_open_for... I like how the proposed name fit with the existing one. Good example of backward compatibility, but with project names. ;)

verall 8y ago
I imagined someone asked if "sr.ht" was pronounced "sourcehut" and he said "uhhh... Yea!" Funny to see it came from reddit, thanks.
- bmn__ 8y ago
  lobste.rs ≠ redd.it

sexyrouter 8y ago

I think this is a bad move. There is already: SourceTree SourceView SourceForge TheSource SourceCode SourceDaddy OutSource By adding more "Source", you are just diluting value of source brand. It will be interesting to see how many more "Source" untill we stop using Source at all? Same is the thing with "Git" and Docker escaped this issue by prohibiting use of "Docker" in non docker owned companies.

baroffoos 8y ago
GitHub, GitLab, Gitea. Those all work fine. As long as you can easily tell the difference between them.
- humanrebar 8y ago
  Agreed. Taco Bell, Del Taco, Taco Cabana, Taco Bueno, Del Taco, Fuzzy's Tacos... and it keeps going.
  - Jaruzel 8y ago
    "Taco Bell was the only restaurant to survive the Franchise Wars. Now all restaurants are Taco Bell. "
  - qbaqbaqba 8y ago
    Pizza Hut...
  - wccrawford 8y ago
    My wife still misses Taco Tico, and every time I call some other restaurant that, she's incredibly disappointed. So yeah, there's more to branding than a single word of the name.
lucideer 8y ago
> you are just diluting value of source brand "Source" is not the brand, it's the literal description of what most (all?) of these products and services deal with. The prefixes/suffixes make the brand. Having a very relatable/descriptive term like "Source" in that brand adds clarity.