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This destroys confidence in the entire domain name system, for everyone, everywhere. Sorry facebook but you can no longer have the facebook.com domain because

This destroys confidence in the entire domain name system, for everyone, everywhere. Sorry facebook but you can no longer have the facebook.com domain because blah blah blah reasons.

CydeWeys 8y ago
That's being a little bit hyperbolic. There's nothing new under the sun here as far as ccTLDs go. There's a long history of ccTLD operators taking away domains for reasons similar to this. It's what you're (knowingly or unknowingly) signing up for when you register a ccTLD domain name. And yeah, that applies to .io domains as well.
- andrewstuart 8y ago
  >> There's a long history of ccTLD operators taking away domains for reasons similar to this. Any references for this? Not doubting but interested.
  - CydeWeys 8y ago
    Here's one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ly#Domain_hacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ly#Domain_hacks The punchline is that there's no restriction on what a ccTLD operator can do under their namespace. They aren't governed by ICANN regulations. It's common to restrict domains on ccTLDs to be related to entities doing business in that country, and to require verification of such upon registration (and take it away later if it's found to be in violation).
    - andrewstuart 8y ago
      Well it's a pity. I guess ccTLD operators who want to continue to make monet need to behave in a way that gives as much confidence as possible.
      - CydeWeys 8y ago
        In a lot of cases making money isn't their primary goal. Most ccTLDs are run by their respective governments, in which case the total revenue from domain sales is insignificant compared to the national budget. Or they're run by universities or other affiliated non-profits. And even if they're behaving in a seemingly sane way now, they can always change policies down the line. With gTLDs there's real contractual protection; you have ownership rights of those domains that don't exist in the same sense for ccTLDs.
  - Laforet 8y ago
    https://www.techelex.org/why-not-use-dot-tk-domain/ https://www.techelex.org/why-not-use-dot-tk-domain/ Relevant information starts from part 3
Laforet 8y ago
Like someone else has explained, ccTLD is particularly bad because the registrars have a lot of arbitrary power over users and appeal process is usually absent. I know a lot of people who were burned by the .us registrars but the most malicious example has to whoever in charge of .tk: The domains are offered for free, however once you managed to build a consistent traffic they are often held hostage to sell premium services or worse, taken away from owners and sold to the next highest bidder.
seba_dos1 8y ago
To be fair, no rules have changed on the domain registry side. Just like new EU contries gain access to .eu registry, the ones that leave lose it, that was to be expected.

This destroys confidence in the entire domain name system, for everyone, everywhere. Sorry facebook but you can no longer have the facebook.com domain because blah blah blah reasons.

CydeWeys 8y ago

That's being a little bit hyperbolic. There's nothing new under the sun here as far as ccTLDs go. There's a long history of ccTLD operators taking away domains for reasons similar to this. It's what you're (knowingly or unknowingly) signing up for when you register a ccTLD domain name. And yeah, that applies to .io domains as well.

andrewstuart 8y ago
>> There's a long history of ccTLD operators taking away domains for reasons similar to this. Any references for this? Not doubting but interested.
- CydeWeys 8y ago
  Here's one example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ly#Domain_hacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.ly#Domain_hacks The punchline is that there's no restriction on what a ccTLD operator can do under their namespace. They aren't governed by ICANN regulations. It's common to restrict domains on ccTLDs to be related to entities doing business in that country, and to require verification of such upon registration (and take it away later if it's found to be in violation).
  - andrewstuart 8y ago
    Well it's a pity. I guess ccTLD operators who want to continue to make monet need to behave in a way that gives as much confidence as possible.
    - CydeWeys 8y ago
      In a lot of cases making money isn't their primary goal. Most ccTLDs are run by their respective governments, in which case the total revenue from domain sales is insignificant compared to the national budget. Or they're run by universities or other affiliated non-profits. And even if they're behaving in a seemingly sane way now, they can always change policies down the line. With gTLDs there's real contractual protection; you have ownership rights of those domains that don't exist in the same sense for ccTLDs.
- Laforet 8y ago
  https://www.techelex.org/why-not-use-dot-tk-domain/ https://www.techelex.org/why-not-use-dot-tk-domain/ Relevant information starts from part 3

Laforet 8y ago

Like someone else has explained, ccTLD is particularly bad because the registrars have a lot of arbitrary power over users and appeal process is usually absent. I know a lot of people who were burned by the .us registrars but the most malicious example has to whoever in charge of .tk: The domains are offered for free, however once you managed to build a consistent traffic they are often held hostage to sell premium services or worse, taken away from owners and sold to the next highest bidder.

seba_dos1 8y ago

To be fair, no rules have changed on the domain registry side. Just like new EU contries gain access to .eu registry, the ones that leave lose it, that was to be expected.