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Scientists also warned that we have around 12 years to avoid a climate catastrophe [1]. And some scientists [2] claim the next decade can be very challenging -

Scientists also warned that we have around 12 years to avoid a climate catastrophe [1]. And some scientists [2] claim the next decade can be very challenging - more droughts which can cause crop failures - causing food security issues and in worse cases some kind of societal collapse, the famous 9 meals to anarchy. What are your views? Are these scientist just mega alarmist? Do you worry about climate change in the near term? Are you changing your strategy, e.g. planning to live more self sustainable and move away from cities? Do you think we could go extinct this century if the world doesn't take this climate emergency serious and launch something like a Manhatten project to tackle it? [1] https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/scary-un-climate-change-report https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/scary-un-clima... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-warming-must-not-exceed-15c-warns-landmark-un-report https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/08/global-w... [2] http://www.scientistswarning.org/critical-stress/climate/ http://www.scientistswarning.org/critical-stress/climate/

xbmcuser 8y ago
In the 1980s we needed to do something about Carbon production. Where they knew that otherwise it will be too late by 2000. Now it's year 2019 we are 30-40 years late already. Climate Change is going to happen the only question is now how much and looking at the way countries and world leaders are reacting it's too little to late most of us below the age of 50 are going to see it first hand.
- uxcolumbo 8y ago
  Yes, James Hansen (ex NASA scientist) warned us in the 80s and has been campaigning for this since. His view seems to be not enough is being done. So how are you planning to change your life in the next decade, i.e. are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient (permaculture) as cities will become more dangerous to live in or do you think it will be just a case of food being a bit more expensive and it being a bit hotter. I'm struggling to understand whether near term it will drastically change our lifes or whether it's something to really worry about post 2050.
  - dagw 8y ago
    are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient Isn't that a terrible thing to do from environmental perspective. Surely using that land for smartly run large scale industrial farms that ship their produce to large distribution points in the center of dense cities could produce far more calories pr. total gram of greenhouse gas emitted.
    - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
      Yes. I suppose the other way of looking at it is smartly run and managed farms feeding dense cities is a solution for a world where politicians, countries and corporations are doing something substantive about climate change. A world where the supply chains won't break, and the little people won't bear the brunt. In the world we actually occupy, moving to some rural high ground with a few acres, and as off-grid as possible, to weather a possible Mad Max future looks less and less idiotic.
    - uxcolumbo 8y ago
      I was thinking more of permaculture [1], which apparently is better for the environment than our current soil degrading farming practices. I'm just trying to understand whether there is a real near term danger that will impact global food security. The US practically pulled out of the paris agreement and do we think the world leaders will take climate change seriously to avert disaster? If not, how will this impact us little people and what should the strategy be. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture
  - xbmcuser 8y ago
    I am in agricultural trade so looking at growing population in Asia/Africa and the crop production fluctuations year to year with the uncertainty that climate change is already bringing 2050 is too far away. By 2050 we might actually have got some workarounds for the problems the world is going to face in term of food shortages etc in 2030-2035. As far as what I am planning to do one of the things I did was I decided not to have kids not because I feel my having children is going to affect carbon production much but because I will be dead and my future children would have to live in the world we will be leaving behind for them.

xbmcuser 8y ago

In the 1980s we needed to do something about Carbon production. Where they knew that otherwise it will be too late by 2000. Now it's year 2019 we are 30-40 years late already. Climate Change is going to happen the only question is now how much and looking at the way countries and world leaders are reacting it's too little to late most of us below the age of 50 are going to see it first hand.

uxcolumbo 8y ago
Yes, James Hansen (ex NASA scientist) warned us in the 80s and has been campaigning for this since. His view seems to be not enough is being done. So how are you planning to change your life in the next decade, i.e. are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient (permaculture) as cities will become more dangerous to live in or do you think it will be just a case of food being a bit more expensive and it being a bit hotter. I'm struggling to understand whether near term it will drastically change our lifes or whether it's something to really worry about post 2050.
- dagw 8y ago
  are you looking to move to the country side with more land so you can be more self sufficient Isn't that a terrible thing to do from environmental perspective. Surely using that land for smartly run large scale industrial farms that ship their produce to large distribution points in the center of dense cities could produce far more calories pr. total gram of greenhouse gas emitted.
  - NeedMoreTea 8y ago
    Yes. I suppose the other way of looking at it is smartly run and managed farms feeding dense cities is a solution for a world where politicians, countries and corporations are doing something substantive about climate change. A world where the supply chains won't break, and the little people won't bear the brunt. In the world we actually occupy, moving to some rural high ground with a few acres, and as off-grid as possible, to weather a possible Mad Max future looks less and less idiotic.
  - uxcolumbo 8y ago
    I was thinking more of permaculture [1], which apparently is better for the environment than our current soil degrading farming practices. I'm just trying to understand whether there is a real near term danger that will impact global food security. The US practically pulled out of the paris agreement and do we think the world leaders will take climate change seriously to avert disaster? If not, how will this impact us little people and what should the strategy be. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permaculture
- xbmcuser 8y ago
  I am in agricultural trade so looking at growing population in Asia/Africa and the crop production fluctuations year to year with the uncertainty that climate change is already bringing 2050 is too far away. By 2050 we might actually have got some workarounds for the problems the world is going to face in term of food shortages etc in 2030-2035. As far as what I am planning to do one of the things I did was I decided not to have kids not because I feel my having children is going to affect carbon production much but because I will be dead and my future children would have to live in the world we will be leaving behind for them.