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Do you use products made in China? If so, you indirectly (or in some cases, directly) support Chinese government. Are you going to stop, now that you think the

by p1esk 8y ago

Do you use products made in China? If so, you indirectly (or in some cases, directly) support Chinese government. Are you going to stop, now that you think they are unethical?

reallydude 8y ago
If I can (know), I avoid it. Same with a number of other organizations (mostly companies).
bdamm 8y ago
That's ridiculous, it's the same fallacy as believing that a single person's choice to drive less somehow helps reduce global warming. The massive systemic abuses completely overshadow the noise of individual selection. It's not even clear to me that a social-media storm resulting in a global boycott of "Made in China" goods within developed nations would have much of a long-term dent in the Chinese economy or domestic policy.
- p1esk 8y ago
  Can you propose something more effective, that you personally can do? Or are you suggesting we ignore (alleged) dozen of people executed every hour for organ harvesting?
  - bdamm 8y ago
    Discussing the issue with your representatives would be a good start.
toss1 8y ago
This new finding doesn't actually add much to my aversion, considering their past aggression against Tibet, internal mass killings before & during the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Square, their standard practice of IP theft as ordinary business... I fully understand that any purchase supports that govt. So yes, I already consciously and deliberately avoid purchasing any Chinese item whenever there is an option or I don't strictly need it. E.g., the laptop and MBoard in my desktop are from Taiwan, Phone for SKorea, etc. I check labels on everything from clothes to furniture, absolutely refuse to buy any food or drugs made there (nevermind boycotts, just avoiding toxicity). I also advocate against such dealings when I can. Treating this Chinese govt as if it were normal and legitimate will go down as a geopolitical blunder of historic proportions. Westerners think we're exploiting their cheap labor, while they are actually exploiting our myopic focus on quarterly profits above all, even strategic security.

by p1esk 8y ago

Do you use products made in China? If so, you indirectly (or in some cases, directly) support Chinese government. Are you going to stop, now that you think they are unethical?

reallydude 8y ago

If I can (know), I avoid it. Same with a number of other organizations (mostly companies).

bdamm 8y ago

That's ridiculous, it's the same fallacy as believing that a single person's choice to drive less somehow helps reduce global warming. The massive systemic abuses completely overshadow the noise of individual selection. It's not even clear to me that a social-media storm resulting in a global boycott of "Made in China" goods within developed nations would have much of a long-term dent in the Chinese economy or domestic policy.

p1esk 8y ago
Can you propose something more effective, that you personally can do? Or are you suggesting we ignore (alleged) dozen of people executed every hour for organ harvesting?
- bdamm 8y ago
  Discussing the issue with your representatives would be a good start.

toss1 8y ago

This new finding doesn't actually add much to my aversion, considering their past aggression against Tibet, internal mass killings before & during the Cultural Revolution, Tiananmen Square, their standard practice of IP theft as ordinary business... I fully understand that any purchase supports that govt. So yes, I already consciously and deliberately avoid purchasing any Chinese item whenever there is an option or I don't strictly need it. E.g., the laptop and MBoard in my desktop are from Taiwan, Phone for SKorea, etc. I check labels on everything from clothes to furniture, absolutely refuse to buy any food or drugs made there (nevermind boycotts, just avoiding toxicity). I also advocate against such dealings when I can. Treating this Chinese govt as if it were normal and legitimate will go down as a geopolitical blunder of historic proportions. Westerners think we're exploiting their cheap labor, while they are actually exploiting our myopic focus on quarterly profits above all, even strategic security.