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>little boys are just too destructive and disobedient Don't blame the boys - I've known equally pain-in-the-ass families of girls, and wonderful boys. It's the

>little boys are just too destructive and disobedient Don't blame the boys - I've known equally pain-in-the-ass families of girls, and wonderful boys. It's the parents.

magduf 8y ago
Boys are inherently more destructive and violent than girls; it's a biological fact, and is the whole reason prison inmates are over 90% male.
- telesilla 8y ago
  And those of you who aren't in prison, probably had better parenting right? (and some luck). Anyway, I don't mean to hijack this thread but if the parent is saying he doesn't want kids because they are unruly, he might look to the parenting of said kids. Kids can—and should!—be bringing joy and lightness and laughter and learning. It's a tragedy that the modern person avoids have children because of economic concerns and perceived issues of losing independence.
  - magduf 8y ago
    Just about everyone I know who has little boys has major problems with them: they all seem to have autistic traits, and severe behavior problems. I don't know what the problem is, but it makes me not want to be involved with boys in a parenting situation.
    - jdbernard 8y ago
      > if the parent is saying he doesn't want kids because they are unruly, he might look to the parenting of said kids. To me your experiences only emphasize this point. Large portions of our society have decided that masculinity is inherently toxic. We've also, generally speaking, de-emphasized the role of discipline in parenting (I'm not talking about spanking). Our school system has long been stacked against young boys. I think that, as a society, we've forgotten how to parent children, especially boys.
      - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
        Define ‘masculinity’. Children learn from other children. Usually older children. Children are largely being raised by the state and that is never a good thing as it leads to conformity. Educational institutions look at children as future workforce and not as individuals. My 2c.
        jdbernard 8y ago
        I completely agree with you wrt. to where most children are getting their actual raising from. This is amplified by the lack of direction commonly given by parents. As far as defining masculinity, I mean it in the sense that psychologists use it: the traits that are generally common to males.
      - magduf 8y ago
        These allegations don't seem to be problems in other highly-developed nations.
        jdbernard 8y ago
        You're right. I don't think other nations have so watered down the importance of parenting as much as the US has. It's a real problem with American culture.
    - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
      Interesting you should mention that. I have a pet theory that it has something to do with the Y chromosome. Do we know enough about the Y chromosome? I think being ‘male’ is a genetic mutation with some undesirable effects. The SRY gene turns on/off around 4-6 weeks after conception determining whether zygote would be XX or XY. This has something to do with gonad formation. I think fundamentally everyone is formed female as default. Not female = male. Which means it’s the Y. Something is wrong with Y.
quickthrower2 8y ago
> It's the parents. The parents' DNA, in particular.

>little boys are just too destructive and disobedient Don't blame the boys - I've known equally pain-in-the-ass families of girls, and wonderful boys. It's the parents.

magduf 8y ago

Boys are inherently more destructive and violent than girls; it's a biological fact, and is the whole reason prison inmates are over 90% male.

telesilla 8y ago
And those of you who aren't in prison, probably had better parenting right? (and some luck). Anyway, I don't mean to hijack this thread but if the parent is saying he doesn't want kids because they are unruly, he might look to the parenting of said kids. Kids can—and should!—be bringing joy and lightness and laughter and learning. It's a tragedy that the modern person avoids have children because of economic concerns and perceived issues of losing independence.
- magduf 8y ago
  Just about everyone I know who has little boys has major problems with them: they all seem to have autistic traits, and severe behavior problems. I don't know what the problem is, but it makes me not want to be involved with boys in a parenting situation.
  - jdbernard 8y ago
    > if the parent is saying he doesn't want kids because they are unruly, he might look to the parenting of said kids. To me your experiences only emphasize this point. Large portions of our society have decided that masculinity is inherently toxic. We've also, generally speaking, de-emphasized the role of discipline in parenting (I'm not talking about spanking). Our school system has long been stacked against young boys. I think that, as a society, we've forgotten how to parent children, especially boys.
    - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
      Define ‘masculinity’. Children learn from other children. Usually older children. Children are largely being raised by the state and that is never a good thing as it leads to conformity. Educational institutions look at children as future workforce and not as individuals. My 2c.
      - jdbernard 8y ago
        I completely agree with you wrt. to where most children are getting their actual raising from. This is amplified by the lack of direction commonly given by parents. As far as defining masculinity, I mean it in the sense that psychologists use it: the traits that are generally common to males.
    - magduf 8y ago
      These allegations don't seem to be problems in other highly-developed nations.
      - jdbernard 8y ago
        You're right. I don't think other nations have so watered down the importance of parenting as much as the US has. It's a real problem with American culture.
  - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
    Interesting you should mention that. I have a pet theory that it has something to do with the Y chromosome. Do we know enough about the Y chromosome? I think being ‘male’ is a genetic mutation with some undesirable effects. The SRY gene turns on/off around 4-6 weeks after conception determining whether zygote would be XX or XY. This has something to do with gonad formation. I think fundamentally everyone is formed female as default. Not female = male. Which means it’s the Y. Something is wrong with Y.

quickthrower2 8y ago

> It's the parents. The parents' DNA, in particular.