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This is pretty annoying as I replaced every bulb in my house with LED under the assumption that they would last at least a decade. I didn't even think to check

This is pretty annoying as I replaced every bulb in my house with LED under the assumption that they would last at least a decade. I didn't even think to check a powered-on time rating. Not that using incandescent bulbs is a good option anymore anyway.

Brakenshire 8y ago
At 10c/kWh, you only need about 700-1000 hours to pay back a $5 80W-equivalent LED bulb, so financially speaking something lasting only 7500 hours isn't that big a deal. It's more important in terms of house design, for instance there are a lot of fittings with inbuilt, unchangeable bulbs which are being used, if they last 20 years that might be justifiable, but if they last 2-5 years it's going to be an enormous hassle.
umvi 8y ago
I did this as well and was very disappointed/frustrated when bulbs started dying only a year later. Usually they would start flickering more and more frequently until it was really annoying to be in a room with flickering light and I would remove it. GE even had a warranty so I shipped them back on principle (shipping was nearly the cost of the bulbs themselves) and GE never responded with replacement bulbs. What a crock.
- pkaye 8y ago
  Phillips is pretty good on warranty. They either give me a cash back or replacement bulbs. I didn't even keep the receipt so they just ask for a picture of the bulb id information.
dchichkov 8y ago
Curious, have you noticed any sleep issues, after you've switched to LED?
- izzydata 8y ago
  No, but all my LED bulbs give off a yellow light instead of a white light.
  - andy_adams 8y ago
    As I understand it, even though LED output is yellow, the primary light range emitted is blue. No idea if this study [1] is good, but the abstract explains it a bit. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734149/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734149/
- r3bl 8y ago
  Let me guess: you've switched from yellow light to white light? White lights emit more blue light than yellow lights, which can negatively affect your sleep. It's the real-world equivalent of uninstalling redshift/f.lux on your device. I've invested in "smart" LEDs and I change their color based on the position of the sun. If the sun is up, the light is white. If the sun is down, the light is dimmed orange.
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- jandrese 8y ago
  I have not, but I turn off my lights when I go to bed.

Brakenshire 8y ago

At 10c/kWh, you only need about 700-1000 hours to pay back a $5 80W-equivalent LED bulb, so financially speaking something lasting only 7500 hours isn't that big a deal. It's more important in terms of house design, for instance there are a lot of fittings with inbuilt, unchangeable bulbs which are being used, if they last 20 years that might be justifiable, but if they last 2-5 years it's going to be an enormous hassle.

umvi 8y ago

I did this as well and was very disappointed/frustrated when bulbs started dying only a year later. Usually they would start flickering more and more frequently until it was really annoying to be in a room with flickering light and I would remove it. GE even had a warranty so I shipped them back on principle (shipping was nearly the cost of the bulbs themselves) and GE never responded with replacement bulbs. What a crock.

pkaye 8y ago
Phillips is pretty good on warranty. They either give me a cash back or replacement bulbs. I didn't even keep the receipt so they just ask for a picture of the bulb id information.

dchichkov 8y ago

Curious, have you noticed any sleep issues, after you've switched to LED?

izzydata 8y ago
No, but all my LED bulbs give off a yellow light instead of a white light.
- andy_adams 8y ago
  As I understand it, even though LED output is yellow, the primary light range emitted is blue. No idea if this study [1] is good, but the abstract explains it a bit. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734149/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4734149/
r3bl 8y ago
Let me guess: you've switched from yellow light to white light? White lights emit more blue light than yellow lights, which can negatively affect your sleep. It's the real-world equivalent of uninstalling redshift/f.lux on your device. I've invested in "smart" LEDs and I change their color based on the position of the sun. If the sun is up, the light is white. If the sun is down, the light is dimmed orange.
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jandrese 8y ago
I have not, but I turn off my lights when I go to bed.