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Glad to see them doing well. Working for a company that legally cannot use services that are not self-hosted can be quite a challenge and Mattermost really is a

Glad to see them doing well. Working for a company that legally cannot use services that are not self-hosted can be quite a challenge and Mattermost really is a godsend in that regard.

pplante 8y ago
What industry?
- jawilson2 8y ago
  We switched to mattermost from slack. We're in trading.
  - PakG1 8y ago
    Even for companies that aren't in trading, I can't think of many reasons why anyone would want to switch back to Slack on an organizational basis. Public communities, sure. But organizationally? No contest IMHO.
    - paxys 8y ago
      Most companies don't have the infrastructure and staff needed to host an application like this and take care of security, ongoing maintenance, updates etc. Much easier to pay a few bucks per user and trust someone else to handle it.
      - Jedd 8y ago
        That 'few bucks per user' is a bit misleading. Slack's cheapest business plan is usd $7 / month / seat. Hosted mattermost is usd $3 / month / seat.
- silvester23 8y ago
  Electric utility and energy trading.
  - hobofan 8y ago
    Am I assuming correctly that the idea behind this is that you self-host everything, to be isolated from energy failures that could have cascading effects? Or is it more due to security reasons to be harder of a target?
    - silvester23 8y ago
      As far as I'm aware (I'm not exactly central to our information security processes), it is more of the latter. Due to the amount of electric power we control, we, as a company, have been deemed critical infrastructure by the state and as such, we have to comply with rather rigorous information security standards. We do, however, also have an uninterruptible power supply for the most critical hardware.
meritt 8y ago
We're under no legal requirement but I simply don't trust Slack employees to be good stewards of our data. On a UI/UX basis, Slack and Discord are far superior to Mattermost, so hopefully they can use this funding to close that gap.
- eggie5 8y ago
  Probably a good call. Slack trains recommender systems w/ all user data mixed together. Although w/ attempts to preserve privacy... See their paper from recsys '18 Vancouver.
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  - ddorian43 8y ago
    Recommeneder for what ?
    - drdaeman 8y ago
      The only recommendations I remember on Slack are for channel participation - accidental suggestions to leave some I don't really read any much, and to join some I may be interested in. YMMV, but for me that's a very low value feature.
      - ddorian43 8y ago
        The same for me. That's why I was asking.
  - johnymontana 8y ago
    The referenced paper: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3241726 https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3241726
- docker_up 8y ago
  Isn't Slack based on Mattermost?
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Glad to see them doing well. Working for a company that legally cannot use services that are not self-hosted can be quite a challenge and Mattermost really is a godsend in that regard.

pplante 8y ago

What industry?

jawilson2 8y ago
We switched to mattermost from slack. We're in trading.
- PakG1 8y ago
  Even for companies that aren't in trading, I can't think of many reasons why anyone would want to switch back to Slack on an organizational basis. Public communities, sure. But organizationally? No contest IMHO.
  - paxys 8y ago
    Most companies don't have the infrastructure and staff needed to host an application like this and take care of security, ongoing maintenance, updates etc. Much easier to pay a few bucks per user and trust someone else to handle it.
    - Jedd 8y ago
      That 'few bucks per user' is a bit misleading. Slack's cheapest business plan is usd $7 / month / seat. Hosted mattermost is usd $3 / month / seat.
silvester23 8y ago
Electric utility and energy trading.
- hobofan 8y ago
  Am I assuming correctly that the idea behind this is that you self-host everything, to be isolated from energy failures that could have cascading effects? Or is it more due to security reasons to be harder of a target?
  - silvester23 8y ago
    As far as I'm aware (I'm not exactly central to our information security processes), it is more of the latter. Due to the amount of electric power we control, we, as a company, have been deemed critical infrastructure by the state and as such, we have to comply with rather rigorous information security standards. We do, however, also have an uninterruptible power supply for the most critical hardware.

meritt 8y ago

We're under no legal requirement but I simply don't trust Slack employees to be good stewards of our data. On a UI/UX basis, Slack and Discord are far superior to Mattermost, so hopefully they can use this funding to close that gap.

eggie5 8y ago
Probably a good call. Slack trains recommender systems w/ all user data mixed together. Although w/ attempts to preserve privacy... See their paper from recsys '18 Vancouver.
- deleted 8y ago
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- ddorian43 8y ago
  Recommeneder for what ?
  - drdaeman 8y ago
    The only recommendations I remember on Slack are for channel participation - accidental suggestions to leave some I don't really read any much, and to join some I may be interested in. YMMV, but for me that's a very low value feature.
    - ddorian43 8y ago
      The same for me. That's why I was asking.
- johnymontana 8y ago
  The referenced paper: https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3241726 https://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=3241726
docker_up 8y ago
Isn't Slack based on Mattermost?

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