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In reality its not that simple. Its often extra difficult for 30-35 year old women to find new jobs as employers are wary. Its also more difficult for women to

by rb808 8y ago

In reality its not that simple. Its often extra difficult for 30-35 year old women to find new jobs as employers are wary. Its also more difficult for women to return to work after taking longer off. Discrimination lawsuits are more common in Europe from what I've seen.

alkonaut 8y ago
That’s why it’s parental leave not maternal leave. Women are usually away longer but it’s not uncommon in countries with long parental leaves to have some part (e.g 1/3) reserved for each parent. Employers aren’t wary if a 30 year old man is as likely to leave for 6 months as a woman is to leave for 12. Orgs don’t avoid hiring all 30year olds out of fear they might become parents. Other reforms such as free/subsidized daycare can be needed if you want to help parents return to work after the kid is 1-2 years.
- wolfgke 8y ago
  > Employers aren’t wary if a 30 year old man is as likely to leave for 6 months as a woman is to leave for 12. Orgs don’t avoid hiring all 30year olds out of fear they might become parents. If you don't know who will leave, just do some statistics. Currently, it is more women. If fashion changes, it might be that an age group that has not completed family planning will simply be discriminated against.
  - alkonaut 8y ago
    Some stats from where I am: 30% of parental leave days are used by men (was 10% in mid 90s). A clear majority of dads do go on some leave, and of course almost all women do. Of 480 days to share between parents 90 days are reserved for each, meaning it’s a typical minimum for the father to do at least the 90. A more normal division is 12 months for the mother and 4-5 for the father. Of course the stats say women leave more days. But importantly men take enough leave that it’s starting to not make that much difference e.g to an employer.

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In reality its not that simple. Its often extra difficult for 30-35 year old women to find new jobs as employers are wary. Its also more difficult for women to

by rb808 8y ago

alkonaut 8y ago
That’s why it’s parental leave not maternal leave. Women are usually away longer but it’s not uncommon in countries with long parental leaves to have some part (e.g 1/3) reserved for each parent. Employers aren’t wary if a 30 year old man is as likely to leave for 6 months as a woman is to leave for 12. Orgs don’t avoid hiring all 30year olds out of fear they might become parents. Other reforms such as free/subsidized daycare can be needed if you want to help parents return to work after the kid is 1-2 years.
- wolfgke 8y ago
  > Employers aren’t wary if a 30 year old man is as likely to leave for 6 months as a woman is to leave for 12. Orgs don’t avoid hiring all 30year olds out of fear they might become parents. If you don't know who will leave, just do some statistics. Currently, it is more women. If fashion changes, it might be that an age group that has not completed family planning will simply be discriminated against.
  - alkonaut 8y ago
    Some stats from where I am: 30% of parental leave days are used by men (was 10% in mid 90s). A clear majority of dads do go on some leave, and of course almost all women do. Of 480 days to share between parents 90 days are reserved for each, meaning it’s a typical minimum for the father to do at least the 90. A more normal division is 12 months for the mother and 4-5 for the father. Of course the stats say women leave more days. But importantly men take enough leave that it’s starting to not make that much difference e.g to an employer.