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I mean, maybe, but do you really think they have some sort of well-staffed cyber-division that would 1. understand this and 2. know what to do with it? My guess

by rhexs 8y ago

I mean, maybe, but do you really think they have some sort of well-staffed cyber-division that would 1. understand this and 2. know what to do with it? My guess is they're still operating like it's the 1980s. Hopefully I'm wrong! Curious that the FBI now does vulnerability coordination. Haven't ever heard that before.

lallysingh 8y ago
There could be blanket clauses like reasonable efforts to secure private information, access controls, etc. They don't have to specify on the regulation what has to be done, just let prosecutors argue that it's not sufficient.
a3n 8y ago
My guess would be yes, since so much of gambling is electronic. "Wire fraud" is pretty old.
daeken 8y ago
I've not dealt with the NGC directly -- only other gaming commissions and some NGC partners -- but everyone I've dealt with in gambling has cared deeply about security. They often get it wrong, but they take this stuff very seriously.
reaperducer 8y ago
do you really think they have some sort of well-staffed cyber-division that would 1. understand this and 2. know what to do with it? 1. Yes. 2. Also yes. The Nevada Gaming Commission, all of the big casino companies in its state, and the companies that make the gambling machines, are quite remarkable, technologically speaking. Sometimes I think the terrible web sites they have for hotel reservations are just a smokescreen.
- dylan604 8y ago
  > Sometimes I think the terrible web sites they have for hotel reservations are just a smokescreen. Captain Obvious says he'd imagine that the amount of money brought in from room reservations is a drop in the bucket to what is made on the casino floor, hence the comping of rooms for players. The money spent on reservations vs protecting the gaming would be in proportion to that. Maybe Captain Obvious is being a bit simple minded, but makes sense. Everything about the hotel is geared to get you to lose your money in the casino.
  - reaperducer 8y ago
    Everything about the hotel is geared to get you to lose your money in the casino. That's last century thinking. Gambling's influence on the bottom line domestically is waning. These days it's all about entertainment, clubs, and restaurants. That's why every casino in Las Vegas is falling all over itself to build new sports and entertainment arenas, and paying huge bucks to put celebrity chef names on their restaurants.
    - dylan604 8y ago
      That sounds like the mindset they must have used when they had the Vegas is family friendly ad campaign. That failed, and the What happens in Vegas campaign took over. I would have a hard time believing concerts, magic shows, celeb chefs generate the same kind of money that the casinos and sports betting brings in. However, if you have something that backs that up, I'd definitely be willing to read it and change my view.

by rhexs 8y ago

lallysingh 8y ago

There could be blanket clauses like reasonable efforts to secure private information, access controls, etc. They don't have to specify on the regulation what has to be done, just let prosecutors argue that it's not sufficient.

a3n 8y ago

My guess would be yes, since so much of gambling is electronic. "Wire fraud" is pretty old.

daeken 8y ago

I've not dealt with the NGC directly -- only other gaming commissions and some NGC partners -- but everyone I've dealt with in gambling has cared deeply about security. They often get it wrong, but they take this stuff very seriously.

reaperducer 8y ago

do you really think they have some sort of well-staffed cyber-division that would 1. understand this and 2. know what to do with it? 1. Yes. 2. Also yes. The Nevada Gaming Commission, all of the big casino companies in its state, and the companies that make the gambling machines, are quite remarkable, technologically speaking. Sometimes I think the terrible web sites they have for hotel reservations are just a smokescreen.

dylan604 8y ago
> Sometimes I think the terrible web sites they have for hotel reservations are just a smokescreen. Captain Obvious says he'd imagine that the amount of money brought in from room reservations is a drop in the bucket to what is made on the casino floor, hence the comping of rooms for players. The money spent on reservations vs protecting the gaming would be in proportion to that. Maybe Captain Obvious is being a bit simple minded, but makes sense. Everything about the hotel is geared to get you to lose your money in the casino.
- reaperducer 8y ago
  Everything about the hotel is geared to get you to lose your money in the casino. That's last century thinking. Gambling's influence on the bottom line domestically is waning. These days it's all about entertainment, clubs, and restaurants. That's why every casino in Las Vegas is falling all over itself to build new sports and entertainment arenas, and paying huge bucks to put celebrity chef names on their restaurants.
  - dylan604 8y ago
    That sounds like the mindset they must have used when they had the Vegas is family friendly ad campaign. That failed, and the What happens in Vegas campaign took over. I would have a hard time believing concerts, magic shows, celeb chefs generate the same kind of money that the casinos and sports betting brings in. However, if you have something that backs that up, I'd definitely be willing to read it and change my view.