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To be fair, that's been tried a lot, and it keeps causing issues. I'm at the point where I believe that you can't "layer on" or "abstract away" security like y
by Klathmon 8y ago
To be fair, that's been tried a lot, and it keeps causing issues.
I'm at the point where I believe that you can't "layer on" or "abstract away" security like you can with other things, it needs to be thought about at every step.
Just look at attacks that can take advantage of content-length to pluck out which page the user is requesting of a mostly-static site, or how compression and encryption seem to almost be at odds with one another.
You can't ever just assume TLS will handle it when it's abstracted away, and while HTTP/3 may not get rid of those kinds of attacks entirely, bringing "security" closer to the application logic may enable better protections.
- tracker1 8y agoPossibly... I'm just concerned about yet another layer to have to be far more concerned about than I already am. I really enjoy building applications. I'm pretty good at systems and orchestration to an extent, but would rather not have to focus too much. Going from using an application framework that's more abstracted, such as ASP.Net (not mvc/api/core) to those where you are closer to the metal (node, python, .net core/mvc/api) was a jump. Thinking in terms of leveraging push with HTTP/2 alone has me concerned. The tooling around building web applications hasn't even caught up to the current state of being, let alone moving farther. Another issue is dealing with certificates against local/internal development in smaller organizations. It may get interesting, and it may get more interesting than it's actually worth in some regards.