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Good question. I host http://0bin.net/ http://0bin.net/. I comply to the regular take down notices, but by its very nature, I cannot filter the service since

Good question. I host http://0bin.net/ http://0bin.net/. I comply to the regular take down notices, but by its very nature, I cannot filter the service since I cannot see what's been pasted. Would it mean I'll have to move the server outside europe ? Would it mean I'll have to block european IP ?

bubblethink 8y ago
>Would it mean I'll have to move the server outside europe ? Perhaps ? >Would it mean I'll have to block european IP ? Not really ? They can block you if they want (similar to how DMCA works). That gets into general censorship territory though, for which people are looking into other solutions for far more oppressive regimes than the EU. See signal in Iran, domain fronting etc. As for currency exchange, this may be the killer app for cryptos ?
c3o 8y ago
This doesn't seem to be a for-profit service, so it's outside of the scope of the latest drafts of Article 13 thankfully. As long as you never put ads on it, you're good.
- pmlnr 8y ago
  > As long as you never put ads on it, you're good. Nonprofit doesn't mean it can't make money.
- zaarn 8y ago
  The french draft includes services older than 3 years. The new proposal that the french are pushing has the following conditions which must ALL be met: Available to the public for less than 3 years Annual turnover below €10 million Fewer than 5 million unique monthly visitors
  - c3o 8y ago
    Another provision of the article limits its scope to services that "organise and promote" user-posted/uploaded content "for profit-making purposes". The 3 criteria you quoted then further narrow which of the services matching the above provision need to deploy upload filters. Come to think of it, the pastebin-like site is actually already excluded by the "organise and promote" criterium, regardless of whether it's profit-oriented or not.
gnode 8y ago
I'm not sure this service qualifies. It's not browsable, so it's arguably more like a cloud storage service, which are explicitly exempt.

bubblethink 8y ago

>Would it mean I'll have to move the server outside europe ? Perhaps ? >Would it mean I'll have to block european IP ? Not really ? They can block you if they want (similar to how DMCA works). That gets into general censorship territory though, for which people are looking into other solutions for far more oppressive regimes than the EU. See signal in Iran, domain fronting etc. As for currency exchange, this may be the killer app for cryptos ?

c3o 8y ago

This doesn't seem to be a for-profit service, so it's outside of the scope of the latest drafts of Article 13 thankfully. As long as you never put ads on it, you're good.

pmlnr 8y ago
> As long as you never put ads on it, you're good. Nonprofit doesn't mean it can't make money.
zaarn 8y ago
The french draft includes services older than 3 years. The new proposal that the french are pushing has the following conditions which must ALL be met: Available to the public for less than 3 years Annual turnover below €10 million Fewer than 5 million unique monthly visitors
- c3o 8y ago
  Another provision of the article limits its scope to services that "organise and promote" user-posted/uploaded content "for profit-making purposes". The 3 criteria you quoted then further narrow which of the services matching the above provision need to deploy upload filters. Come to think of it, the pastebin-like site is actually already excluded by the "organise and promote" criterium, regardless of whether it's profit-oriented or not.

gnode 8y ago

I'm not sure this service qualifies. It's not browsable, so it's arguably more like a cloud storage service, which are explicitly exempt.