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> Going back to tapping out messages on my phone in iMessage ...turns you back into a first class iMessage citizen. Meaning better security, more features, and

> Going back to tapping out messages on my phone in iMessage ...turns you back into a first class iMessage citizen. Meaning better security, more features, and a special color for the messages to signal all that to your recipients with an iphone.

shakna 8y ago
> Meaning better security, more features If I'm understanding you correctly, are you suggesting that iMessages has a superior security protocol than Matrix?
- yoz-y 8y ago
  iMessage + Matrix definitely has a larger attack surface than just iMessage
  - trumped 8y ago
    But using Matrix, cant you more easily have multiple users posting from the same account?
- jancsika 8y ago
  It has nothing to do with the protocol of Matrix. * OP has an iphone and some kind of non-iphone messaging interface accessed through ssh which can somehow send messages to iphone users through iMessage * OP prefers to use the non-iphone messaging interface to send messages to iMessage recipients (I'm assuming both OP and recipients are using a modern generation of the iphone) I'm saying that-- as it stands today-- OP is accepting a decrease in security by sending to the iMessage recipients from the non-iphone setup instead of from OP's iphone. Regardless of the security protocol of Matrix and regardless of which client OP is using, what I'm claiming will be true. It's also trivial to refute-- if I'm wrong then the messages OP is sending from their custom box should show up with a blue background in iMessage on the recipient's iphone. Is that the case or not?
  - ryukafalz 8y ago
    >It's also trivial to refute-- if I'm wrong then the messages OP is sending from their custom box should show up with a blue background in iMessage on the recipient's iphone. Is that the case or not? The distinction that the iOS messaging app uses to set the color of the message bubbles is whether messages are sent over SMS/MMS or iMessage. Since they're sent over iMessage, the message bubbles will be blue. But yes, adding Matrix to the mix does add more potential failure points, since there are now two messaging protocols involved instead of one. That's just the nature of bridging messaging protocols though.

shakna 8y ago

> Meaning better security, more features If I'm understanding you correctly, are you suggesting that iMessages has a superior security protocol than Matrix?

yoz-y 8y ago
iMessage + Matrix definitely has a larger attack surface than just iMessage
- trumped 8y ago
  But using Matrix, cant you more easily have multiple users posting from the same account?
jancsika 8y ago
It has nothing to do with the protocol of Matrix. * OP has an iphone and some kind of non-iphone messaging interface accessed through ssh which can somehow send messages to iphone users through iMessage * OP prefers to use the non-iphone messaging interface to send messages to iMessage recipients (I'm assuming both OP and recipients are using a modern generation of the iphone) I'm saying that-- as it stands today-- OP is accepting a decrease in security by sending to the iMessage recipients from the non-iphone setup instead of from OP's iphone. Regardless of the security protocol of Matrix and regardless of which client OP is using, what I'm claiming will be true. It's also trivial to refute-- if I'm wrong then the messages OP is sending from their custom box should show up with a blue background in iMessage on the recipient's iphone. Is that the case or not?
- ryukafalz 8y ago
  >It's also trivial to refute-- if I'm wrong then the messages OP is sending from their custom box should show up with a blue background in iMessage on the recipient's iphone. Is that the case or not? The distinction that the iOS messaging app uses to set the color of the message bubbles is whether messages are sent over SMS/MMS or iMessage. Since they're sent over iMessage, the message bubbles will be blue. But yes, adding Matrix to the mix does add more potential failure points, since there are now two messaging protocols involved instead of one. That's just the nature of bridging messaging protocols though.