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Python Development in Visual Studio Code

16 points by luord 8y ago

korsakof 8y ago
pycharm sucks but is better than vscode
- matttt 8y ago
  Can you give at least a bit of rational to either of those statements?
  - korsakof 8y ago
    In my own opinion, vscode is good for small demo/test project. It falls short when it comes to manage a lot projects in parallel. I manage near twenty different (very small) python projects that are published on a private pypi. When I need to change a tool that is used by another one, I find it more easy to do that in one pycharm project. The git integration is far from good and seem to do a lot a magic that is not needed. Branching, merging, viewing history, upstream management, are not clear enough for me. I'm never sure if the upstream will ends all messed up after a push. The debugger is doing the minimal job but it lacks the pycharm feature "python console" that allows to execute arbitrary python code within the select stack context. For instance in a recursive method, you can put a breakpoint to get the stack context and then code new line with a real execution context which helps to code faster (for me) vscode uses plugins ala sublime text (which is my defacto notepad). And like sublime text you need to explore/test/uninstall for your plugins and there are a lot of bad ones, working in progress, halfbaked plugins. If you want to have python IDE that works, you need to test a lot of non working plugins. And then, when you reinstall vscode, all this job need to be done again. pycharm (free community version) is shipped with a strong base of features that is ready to use. But it lack the "sublime text" ease of configuration. You want to highligth or fold a java file, you can't ( buy intellij for that :( ). Sort lines/unique, view a CSV like in libreoffice, sort json, realign obscure file type like logstash.conf are all things that are easier to do with vscode/sublime text. pycharm is heavier and the development seems to be slower than vscode. new versions tends to be buggy. My best wish would be that jetbrain changes its business model to deliver only one IDE that can manage all type of code (like vscode) but with all the strong features that comes by default, that could be activate on demand. So pycharm is still better that vscode, but it will die if it does not adapt. (sorry english is not my first language)

16 points by luord 8y ago

korsakof 8y ago

pycharm sucks but is better than vscode

matttt 8y ago
Can you give at least a bit of rational to either of those statements?
- korsakof 8y ago
  In my own opinion, vscode is good for small demo/test project. It falls short when it comes to manage a lot projects in parallel. I manage near twenty different (very small) python projects that are published on a private pypi. When I need to change a tool that is used by another one, I find it more easy to do that in one pycharm project. The git integration is far from good and seem to do a lot a magic that is not needed. Branching, merging, viewing history, upstream management, are not clear enough for me. I'm never sure if the upstream will ends all messed up after a push. The debugger is doing the minimal job but it lacks the pycharm feature "python console" that allows to execute arbitrary python code within the select stack context. For instance in a recursive method, you can put a breakpoint to get the stack context and then code new line with a real execution context which helps to code faster (for me) vscode uses plugins ala sublime text (which is my defacto notepad). And like sublime text you need to explore/test/uninstall for your plugins and there are a lot of bad ones, working in progress, halfbaked plugins. If you want to have python IDE that works, you need to test a lot of non working plugins. And then, when you reinstall vscode, all this job need to be done again. pycharm (free community version) is shipped with a strong base of features that is ready to use. But it lack the "sublime text" ease of configuration. You want to highligth or fold a java file, you can't ( buy intellij for that :( ). Sort lines/unique, view a CSV like in libreoffice, sort json, realign obscure file type like logstash.conf are all things that are easier to do with vscode/sublime text. pycharm is heavier and the development seems to be slower than vscode. new versions tends to be buggy. My best wish would be that jetbrain changes its business model to deliver only one IDE that can manage all type of code (like vscode) but with all the strong features that comes by default, that could be activate on demand. So pycharm is still better that vscode, but it will die if it does not adapt. (sorry english is not my first language)