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But also, and maybe more importantly, interoperation does not really necessarily require any sharing of data. DRM actually has a potential for societal good. W

But also, and maybe more importantly, interoperation does not really necessarily require any sharing of data. DRM actually has a potential for societal good. We should make companies like Facebook subject to DRM around our data. DRM is subject to the same asymmetry as privacy. Privacy for individuals is a societal good, in contrast to governments and big public companies, which should be as transparent as possible. Likewise, DRM used by big companies and organizations against individuals is bad for individuals and societies. However, DRM used on behalf of individuals to protect them from big companies would be a societal good.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
Well, except it doesn't, because it necessarily either doesn't work or it is centrally controlled. What does help is simply encryption and decentralized services, no need for DRM.
- stcredzero 8y ago
  Well, except it doesn't, because it necessarily either doesn't work or it is centrally controlled. Putting in another hoop for abusive corporations to jump through does have a function. There would be additional opportunities for whistleblowers to spot it happening, opening up the company to legal and regulatory action. Also, it wouldn't necessarily have to be centrally controlled. 3rd party companies could be hired to do the administration. What does help is simply encryption and decentralized services, no need for DRM. DRM could well be implemented as encryption and decentralized services.
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
    > Putting in another hoop for abusive corporations to jump through does have a function. There would be additional opportunities for whistleblowers to spot it happening, opening up the company to legal and regulatory action. Also, it wouldn't necessarily have to be centrally controlled. 3rd party companies could be hired to do the administration. In which case DRM doesn't do anything, but regulation and whistleblowers do? > DRM could well be implemented as encryption and decentralized services. How would that work? You don't have control over your own machine, but everyone else does?! DRM is the idea that your property has a function that controls what you can do with your property based on instructions from a third party ... who would that "decentralized third party"(?) be? And what would even be the point of that? I am not sure I even understand what kind of construction you have in mind that would qualify as DRM and also be useful for the end user in any way.

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago

Well, except it doesn't, because it necessarily either doesn't work or it is centrally controlled. What does help is simply encryption and decentralized services, no need for DRM.

stcredzero 8y ago
Well, except it doesn't, because it necessarily either doesn't work or it is centrally controlled. Putting in another hoop for abusive corporations to jump through does have a function. There would be additional opportunities for whistleblowers to spot it happening, opening up the company to legal and regulatory action. Also, it wouldn't necessarily have to be centrally controlled. 3rd party companies could be hired to do the administration. What does help is simply encryption and decentralized services, no need for DRM. DRM could well be implemented as encryption and decentralized services.
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 8y ago
  > Putting in another hoop for abusive corporations to jump through does have a function. There would be additional opportunities for whistleblowers to spot it happening, opening up the company to legal and regulatory action. Also, it wouldn't necessarily have to be centrally controlled. 3rd party companies could be hired to do the administration. In which case DRM doesn't do anything, but regulation and whistleblowers do? > DRM could well be implemented as encryption and decentralized services. How would that work? You don't have control over your own machine, but everyone else does?! DRM is the idea that your property has a function that controls what you can do with your property based on instructions from a third party ... who would that "decentralized third party"(?) be? And what would even be the point of that? I am not sure I even understand what kind of construction you have in mind that would qualify as DRM and also be useful for the end user in any way.