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> " The only difference between them is how they are created or displayed, and that's a UI feature." That's incorrect IMHO. It's also completely different how

by axod 16y ago

> " The only difference between them is how they are created or displayed, and that's a UI feature." That's incorrect IMHO. It's also completely different how people use them. If I want to ask my wife to get something extra from the shops, I won't email her. I'll SMS. Each medium carries with it 'urgency', whether you expect a response now or in the future, whether it's open for discussion in a group, etc etc These things didn't just come about by chance, they came about because users want several different methods of communication depending on what they want to say, and their expectations regarding response/discussion etc It's like saying that the internet will make books obsolete. They serve completely different purposes. To an engineer SMS/email/forums etc may be the same. But socially they're completely different.

jasonlotito 16y ago
> That's incorrect IMHO. It's also completely different how people use them. It's not. You're just confusing what it is with what it does. A car and a 18-wheeler have a completely different purpose, but they are both vehicles. They both operate on the same basic principles (driving on roads). Edit: I just want to clarify. What I'm saying is that they are the same at the base level. Their are difference, but at the core, what they are, are the same. How people use something is at a higher level. > If I want to ask my wife to get something extra from the shops, I won't email her. I'll SMS. But you aren't actually SMS'sing. You're using an application that handles the message protocol for you and it get's the message to your wife. Intent and purpose are not important in terms of centralizing real-time messaging. Basically, you fall into a trap: you make the assumption that anything you know now needs to change. A service like what Wave or Facebook are trying to do wouldn't supplant what you are doing. You'll still SMS your wife. However, you'll also be able to "email" your wife, who will get it as an "SMS". Each medium carries with it it's own urgency, but each medium is also beholden to it's UI. Their is nothing special about email or SMS or comments or messages other than context, and context is not defined by the content. I'm probably doing a piss poor job explaining this. But the problem is real, and the solution has a LOT of potential if done correctly. People just have a hard time differentiating form from function. I think Facebook is going to solve this by slowly demonstrating all of this over the long term. You'll see them implementing the system into things people already know. Essentially, you'll still SMS like you always do, but the backend will have additional tools that centralize content without you doing anything different.

by axod 16y ago

jasonlotito 16y ago

> That's incorrect IMHO. It's also completely different how people use them. It's not. You're just confusing what it is with what it does. A car and a 18-wheeler have a completely different purpose, but they are both vehicles. They both operate on the same basic principles (driving on roads). Edit: I just want to clarify. What I'm saying is that they are the same at the base level. Their are difference, but at the core, what they are, are the same. How people use something is at a higher level. > If I want to ask my wife to get something extra from the shops, I won't email her. I'll SMS. But you aren't actually SMS'sing. You're using an application that handles the message protocol for you and it get's the message to your wife. Intent and purpose are not important in terms of centralizing real-time messaging. Basically, you fall into a trap: you make the assumption that anything you know now needs to change. A service like what Wave or Facebook are trying to do wouldn't supplant what you are doing. You'll still SMS your wife. However, you'll also be able to "email" your wife, who will get it as an "SMS". Each medium carries with it it's own urgency, but each medium is also beholden to it's UI. Their is nothing special about email or SMS or comments or messages other than context, and context is not defined by the content. I'm probably doing a piss poor job explaining this. But the problem is real, and the solution has a LOT of potential if done correctly. People just have a hard time differentiating form from function. I think Facebook is going to solve this by slowly demonstrating all of this over the long term. You'll see them implementing the system into things people already know. Essentially, you'll still SMS like you always do, but the backend will have additional tools that centralize content without you doing anything different.