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Not enough high skilled workers? That is simply not true, highly skilled workers earn good money (programmers, engineers, doctors), the problem is with low skil

Not enough high skilled workers? That is simply not true, highly skilled workers earn good money (programmers, engineers, doctors), the problem is with low skilled ones, who earn 4-5 times less then in Western Europe. In every country you have lot more of low skilled than high skilled workers hence this is where the problem lies. There is absolutely no difference in how a shop assistant deals with clients in Hungary or Czech Rep. as in UK or US. So why the disparity? It is definitely not caused by skills, the prices of goods are the same (for sure not 4/5 times cheaper), so what is the problem? The foreign companies? Not enough powerful unions? Governments allowing that?

pas 8y ago
> That is simply not true, You haven't disproved my claim, you introduced a different one (that high skilled workers earn good money). Hungary has fewer people that speak foreign languages (as percentage of working age population: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18155924_886145261528283_4268866092537942220_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=c5a8db95817a706526fc900d4fcb197f&oe=5CB677CB https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18155924_8861... ) than any of the other EU member states. Hungary is the country where the ratio of graduates decreased among the 25-34 year olds between 2014 and 2017 (which might seem like a statistical fluke, but the problem is EU average is increasing monotonically since 2008, whereas Hungary had a peak in 2015 and declined since back to 30% vs 39% of EU average(!), see also: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Educational_attainment_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... 2017 ) This pretty much means Hungary has too few high-skilled workers. > In every country you have lot more of low skilled than high skilled workers hence this is where the problem lies. There is absolutely no difference in how a shop assistant deals with clients in Hungary or Czech Rep. as in UK or US. So why the disparity? And that's because economics works in the aggregate. Skills matter, because in Hungary you have too many people competing for those low skilled jobs. Think about what does the emptying of the middle class means. Of what the Autor paper means that I linked. A lot of people move down. The low skilled jobs are threatened not by automation, but by having more people suddenly becoming "low skilled" (because if they are not high skilled enough to count as high-skilled, and middle-skill stuff is disappearing, then more people are now forced to try to find low-skilled work jobs). https://qz.com/1010831/the-middle-skill-job-is-disappearing-in-rich-countries/ https://qz.com/1010831/the-middle-skill-job-is-disappearing-... Hungary lost both low and middle skilled jobs, high-skilled jobs grew. Yet Hungary has comparatively few high skilled workers. Hence those who are forced to work at "low skilled jobs" are now simply competing with each other more.

pas 8y ago

> That is simply not true, You haven't disproved my claim, you introduced a different one (that high skilled workers earn good money). Hungary has fewer people that speak foreign languages (as percentage of working age population: https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18155924_886145261528283_4268866092537942220_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent-vie1-1.xx&oh=c5a8db95817a706526fc900d4fcb197f&oe=5CB677CB https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18155924_8861... ) than any of the other EU member states. Hungary is the country where the ratio of graduates decreased among the 25-34 year olds between 2014 and 2017 (which might seem like a statistical fluke, but the problem is EU average is increasing monotonically since 2008, whereas Hungary had a peak in 2015 and declined since back to 30% vs 39% of EU average(!), see also: https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Educational_attainment_statistics https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php... 2017 ) This pretty much means Hungary has too few high-skilled workers. > In every country you have lot more of low skilled than high skilled workers hence this is where the problem lies. There is absolutely no difference in how a shop assistant deals with clients in Hungary or Czech Rep. as in UK or US. So why the disparity? And that's because economics works in the aggregate. Skills matter, because in Hungary you have too many people competing for those low skilled jobs. Think about what does the emptying of the middle class means. Of what the Autor paper means that I linked. A lot of people move down. The low skilled jobs are threatened not by automation, but by having more people suddenly becoming "low skilled" (because if they are not high skilled enough to count as high-skilled, and middle-skill stuff is disappearing, then more people are now forced to try to find low-skilled work jobs). https://qz.com/1010831/the-middle-skill-job-is-disappearing-in-rich-countries/ https://qz.com/1010831/the-middle-skill-job-is-disappearing-... Hungary lost both low and middle skilled jobs, high-skilled jobs grew. Yet Hungary has comparatively few high skilled workers. Hence those who are forced to work at "low skilled jobs" are now simply competing with each other more.