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> China-based Huawei has been under increasing scrutiny in the West over allegations of spying Are these legitimate allegations or just negotiation tricks in t

> China-based Huawei has been under increasing scrutiny in the West over allegations of spying Are these legitimate allegations or just negotiation tricks in the context of trade agreements?

dsfyu404ed 8y ago
Almost certainly a lot of both. Huawei has certainly engaged in a ton of industrial espionage. Obviously this can be used as a lever for trade. How closely they work with the Chinese state is the billion dollar question.
- stochastic_monk 8y ago
  The Chinese state retaliations for this investigation and arrests suggests very much, indeed.
prions 8y ago
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/29/689663720/a-robot-named-tappy-huawei-conspired-to-steal-t-mobile-s-trade-secrets-says-doj https://www.npr.org/2019/01/29/689663720/a-robot-named-tappy... This was big news last week and gave a lot of legitimacy to the allegations. Huawei China allegedly continued to pester Huawei USA employees to dig up the intel, and they in turn continued to ask T-Mobile folks about Tappy's design. One of the Huawei engineers, known in the indictment only as "A.X.", took and sent unauthorized photos of the robot to Huawei China, but it wasn't enough, and they asked for more.
- mattmanser 8y ago
  That's not what everyone's worried about. That's just low-level corporate espionage, some people are worried that Huawei are building back doors for the CCCP to hack anyone using Huawei hardware.
  - eganist 8y ago
    > That's just low-level corporate espionage, Considering the national security implications, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the only thing that could be readily disclosed to score public legitimacy without revealing sources/methods.
b_tterc_p 8y ago
This question needs to be broken down into two parts. Are they doing industrial espionage to steal tech for themselves? Yes, certainly seems so. Are they embedding hidden things into their tech to spy on the communications of their customers? To my knowledge there’s no evidence of this, but it feels like this should be a serious concern.
entity345 8y ago
It runs deeper than that. With Huawei we have the first global company, in a strategic industry, that does not answer to the West. This is a major shift and one that is obviously not very welcome in many circles.

> China-based Huawei has been under increasing scrutiny in the West over allegations of spying Are these legitimate allegations or just negotiation tricks in the context of trade agreements?

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

Almost certainly a lot of both. Huawei has certainly engaged in a ton of industrial espionage. Obviously this can be used as a lever for trade. How closely they work with the Chinese state is the billion dollar question.

stochastic_monk 8y ago
The Chinese state retaliations for this investigation and arrests suggests very much, indeed.

prions 8y ago

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/29/689663720/a-robot-named-tappy-huawei-conspired-to-steal-t-mobile-s-trade-secrets-says-doj https://www.npr.org/2019/01/29/689663720/a-robot-named-tappy... This was big news last week and gave a lot of legitimacy to the allegations. Huawei China allegedly continued to pester Huawei USA employees to dig up the intel, and they in turn continued to ask T-Mobile folks about Tappy's design. One of the Huawei engineers, known in the indictment only as "A.X.", took and sent unauthorized photos of the robot to Huawei China, but it wasn't enough, and they asked for more.

mattmanser 8y ago
That's not what everyone's worried about. That's just low-level corporate espionage, some people are worried that Huawei are building back doors for the CCCP to hack anyone using Huawei hardware.
- eganist 8y ago
  > That's just low-level corporate espionage, Considering the national security implications, I wouldn't be surprised if this was the only thing that could be readily disclosed to score public legitimacy without revealing sources/methods.

b_tterc_p 8y ago

This question needs to be broken down into two parts. Are they doing industrial espionage to steal tech for themselves? Yes, certainly seems so. Are they embedding hidden things into their tech to spy on the communications of their customers? To my knowledge there’s no evidence of this, but it feels like this should be a serious concern.

entity345 8y ago

It runs deeper than that. With Huawei we have the first global company, in a strategic industry, that does not answer to the West. This is a major shift and one that is obviously not very welcome in many circles.