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As a fan of Firefox (see username) and user since 2006, and as someone who doesn't like fb- maybe Mozilla should start by being more transparent about: 1) why

by fxfan 8y ago

As a fan of Firefox (see username) and user since 2006, and as someone who doesn't like fb- maybe Mozilla should start by being more transparent about: 1) why they don't install ublock origin by default 2) why they install pocket by default 3) why they keep doing ad-experiments? Mozilla needs to stop pretending they are some saints. But thanks for calling fb out.

peteradio 8y ago
Is Mozilla right or wrong in their callout? Where did this idea come from that unless you are saint-like you have no business in calling out bad behavior? Newsflash everybody has their sins and everybody needs to be called out on their shit. And behavior needs to change. Why should Facebooks bad behavior be shielded by Mozillas infractions?
- fxfan 8y ago
  I already said they are right in calling them out very clearly.
  - peteradio 8y ago
    And yet you focused nearly your entire comment on calling them out.
xfitm3 8y ago
Mozilla is trying to find a way to sustain itself outside of Google. I don't fault them for that. They need money just like any other company.
- jopsen 8y ago
  Mozilla is a non-profit, not like any other company! That said I strongly support their work... Disclaimer: I used to work at Mozilla.
  - freehunter 8y ago
    Non-profits still need money to pay their bills...
    - jopsen 8y ago
      Yes, but not like _any_ other company.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  My hate for facebook borders on the irrational, but if Mozilla has money worries then maybe they should trim some of the fat and focus on making a web browser instead of burning resources playing vigilante against Facebook, fake news, and other internet villains.
toper-centage 8y ago
If Firefox would add ublock by the fault they could kiss bye bye to default search engine provider money.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  This is probably also the reason we have "Facebook Container" from Mozilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-container/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...) but not "Google Container" (it exists, but it's not from Mozilla: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-container/?src=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai...) And if if you're feeling cynical, it might also be why the UX of Multi-Account Containers remains so lackluster; confusing enough to ensure that most firefox users will not use it.

by fxfan 8y ago

peteradio 8y ago

Is Mozilla right or wrong in their callout? Where did this idea come from that unless you are saint-like you have no business in calling out bad behavior? Newsflash everybody has their sins and everybody needs to be called out on their shit. And behavior needs to change. Why should Facebooks bad behavior be shielded by Mozillas infractions?

fxfan 8y ago
I already said they are right in calling them out very clearly.
- peteradio 8y ago
  And yet you focused nearly your entire comment on calling them out.

xfitm3 8y ago

Mozilla is trying to find a way to sustain itself outside of Google. I don't fault them for that. They need money just like any other company.

jopsen 8y ago
Mozilla is a non-profit, not like any other company! That said I strongly support their work... Disclaimer: I used to work at Mozilla.
- freehunter 8y ago
  Non-profits still need money to pay their bills...
  - jopsen 8y ago
    Yes, but not like _any_ other company.
darkpuma 8y ago
My hate for facebook borders on the irrational, but if Mozilla has money worries then maybe they should trim some of the fat and focus on making a web browser instead of burning resources playing vigilante against Facebook, fake news, and other internet villains.

toper-centage 8y ago

If Firefox would add ublock by the fault they could kiss bye bye to default search engine provider money.

darkpuma 8y ago
This is probably also the reason we have "Facebook Container" from Mozilla (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-container/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/facebook-cont...) but not "Google Container" (it exists, but it's not from Mozilla: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-container/?src=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai...) And if if you're feeling cynical, it might also be why the UX of Multi-Account Containers remains so lackluster; confusing enough to ensure that most firefox users will not use it.