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> So many people are starting to de-Google their life. Is this actually true or just an anecdote? Last time I checked the market share for core Google products

by zavi 8y ago

> So many people are starting to de-Google their life. Is this actually true or just an anecdote? Last time I checked the market share for core Google products was growing everywhere except in China, especially in Europe where EU has been killing off the remaining competition through GDPR et al. I'm all for seeing newcomers take on the incumbent behemoths, but I also like true information.

harianus 8y ago
I'm seeing this trend (it is a personal statement), and if I look at Googles popularity in Google Trends [1] it's going down in the last 5 years. It's still huge compared to privacy first products like DuckDuckGo [2]. Again, it's my view around me. I didn't have my business yet so it could be that my eyes are more open to privacy first products. [1] https://g.co/trends/363ud https://g.co/trends/363ud [2] https://g.co/trends/a7kcZ https://g.co/trends/a7kcZ
- nova22033 8y ago
  >I'm seeing this trend (it is a personal statement) So it's anecdata..
  - harianus 8y ago
    It was based on that, but if I look at market share of Google Search in America [1] it goes down for quite some years already. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-search-engines-in-the-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-s...
- davidcbc 8y ago
  I'm not sure that the trend of fewer people googling Google on Google means fewer people are using Google.
  - harianus 8y ago
    It does: https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-search-engines-in-the-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-s...
    - davidcbc 8y ago
      That's closer to the point, but market share dropping only implies fewer users if the total number of users is stagnant. If the search market is still growing it could just mean Google is growing at a slower rate than other search engines.
      - harianus 8y ago
        What public metric would you use to prove this (or the opposite of this) point?
wccrawford 8y ago
It can be both. They can get new customers in markets while old customers are actively trying to move away from them in higher numbers than ever before. I'm one of them. While I'm not completely de-Google-ing my life, I did set up Firefox at work and use DuckDuckGo for my searches there now. I do not like DDG. Google almost always gave me what I wanted, whereas DDG is about 80% of the time. I often end up wishing I'd just used Google the first time instead. 80% sounds like a good number, but it means that I'm often frustrated with it when I wouldn't have been with Google.

by zavi 8y ago

harianus 8y ago

I'm seeing this trend (it is a personal statement), and if I look at Googles popularity in Google Trends [1] it's going down in the last 5 years. It's still huge compared to privacy first products like DuckDuckGo [2]. Again, it's my view around me. I didn't have my business yet so it could be that my eyes are more open to privacy first products. [1] https://g.co/trends/363ud https://g.co/trends/363ud [2] https://g.co/trends/a7kcZ https://g.co/trends/a7kcZ

nova22033 8y ago
>I'm seeing this trend (it is a personal statement) So it's anecdata..
- harianus 8y ago
  It was based on that, but if I look at market share of Google Search in America [1] it goes down for quite some years already. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-search-engines-in-the-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-s...
davidcbc 8y ago
I'm not sure that the trend of fewer people googling Google on Google means fewer people are using Google.
- harianus 8y ago
  It does: https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-search-engines-in-the-united-states/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/267161/market-share-of-s...
  - davidcbc 8y ago
    That's closer to the point, but market share dropping only implies fewer users if the total number of users is stagnant. If the search market is still growing it could just mean Google is growing at a slower rate than other search engines.
    - harianus 8y ago
      What public metric would you use to prove this (or the opposite of this) point?

wccrawford 8y ago

It can be both. They can get new customers in markets while old customers are actively trying to move away from them in higher numbers than ever before. I'm one of them. While I'm not completely de-Google-ing my life, I did set up Firefox at work and use DuckDuckGo for my searches there now. I do not like DDG. Google almost always gave me what I wanted, whereas DDG is about 80% of the time. I often end up wishing I'd just used Google the first time instead. 80% sounds like a good number, but it means that I'm often frustrated with it when I wouldn't have been with Google.