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I minored in history, maybe I didn’t pay enough attention to it, but I can’t think of a period where we’ve been more free than we are now. Not even 10 years ago
by jaabe 8y ago
I minored in history, maybe I didn’t pay enough attention to it, but I can’t think of a period where we’ve been more free than we are now. Not even 10 years ago. We live in a time where you can frankly do anything you want if you’re born in the western world. If you want to become a blacksmith who specialises in creating fantasy weapons, you can do that. If you want to disconnect and go live a self-sustainable life in the Swedish forest, you can do that and unlike the hippies of the 60ies you won’t even have to starve if you suck at it. And so on.
I think it’s completely possible to live a full life and never realise you had the option to be free though, and, I think it’s fair to blame the way we’ve constructed our society in the wake of new public management. We’ve essentially build a system where every human being is viewed as a Hunan resource. It starts in the daycare institution where the social workers have checklists for normal child development. It picks up in the school system where academic achievement is measured from the first classes and children have to know their path from the 6th grade to make sure they take the specific classes which allow them to advance to the next institution. The once you’re on the job market you’re evaluated on productivity and finally when you retire it’s about keeping you in good health so you cost less. All to make sure people are as efficient to the system as possible.
Social media and the massive surveillance state that we’ve build by sharing everything plays right into this. We self-censor and pretend, and everything we share on the “free” tech-platforms is kept and used against us. Which I completely agree is very worrisome.
The thing is though, 1984 was right. If anything the current level of surveillance and manufactured information is way worse than Orwell predicted, and yet, you can still go make fantasy swords in the Swedish forests if you wanted to.
I just don’t share the authors negative outlook. Maybe I’m naive, but I really don’t think that we’ll turn the west into China. I think things like the European GDPR is a show of this. We don’t want companies or governments to misuse our data, and we’ll punish them if they do. It’s happening slowly, but that’s how a democracy operates, because you have to compromise. It’s happening though, and it’s happening because people wanted it.
I also fully expect the younger generation to rebel more than we did. You see it already on climate issues, with children refusing to go to school if they won’t have a future anyway. I suspect they won’t want to keep our surveillance state or our HR centric view on society either.
- djaychela 8y ago>I also fully expect the younger generation to rebel more than we did. You see it already on climate issues, with children refusing to go to school if they won’t have a future anyway. I suspect they won’t want to keep our surveillance state or our HR centric view on society either. I don't see this in my experience. I expected my stepkids' generation to all be real eco-zealots, totally concerned about everything my generation and before have done wrong. In practice, all of them that I know are a cross section - some are quite eco minded, but a lot aren't. They aren't all as PC as I expected them to be (ditto - a cross section, including some who are strongly anti). Most of them are just completely absorbed in their own lives, via whatever social platform is currently most popular. None of them give a monkeys about their privacy, being tracked or anything else - they're totally blind to all these issues, and think that I'm a complete loon for bringing any of them up. I get the 'this is the future old man' routine fairly often, and none of them think that the consequences I'm concerned about have any relevance to them. (They range between 12 and 19 years old, FTR). I appreciate this is anecdotal, but I don't think that the next generation will be the saviours we were expecting them to be. I expected them all to be totally tech-savvy and miles ahead of me - most of them don't even understand the basics of how the Internet works, let alone any of the details. It's the magic of the Wookie Hole Witch as far as they are concerned.
- a0-prw 8y agoThe only reason you can make fantasy weapons or live in the Swedish forest is because those things don't threaten the man. Try exposing state war crimes and see how far you get with your "freedom".