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Soy milk has protein and doesn't necessarily have sugar depending on the brand, if you are looking for a response to that. And if we want to talk water usage a

Pharmakon 8y ago
Soy milk has protein and doesn't necessarily have sugar depending on the brand, if you are looking for a response to that. And if we want to talk water usage and environmental impact, any cattle/dairy product is consuming at least order of magnitude more resources and emissions than oats or soy beans. Oat milk isn’t even a rounding error of total plant “milk” consumption. https://www.statista.com/statistics/693015/dairy-alternatives-global-sales-value-by-category/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/693015/dairy-alternative... Almond dominates by an order of magnitude, and has grown a loooot just since 2013, while soy milk consumption has actually dropped. Worse, it is projected that consumption of almond milk will more than double, while all other types are effectively flat. When we talk about this subject, it’s important to realize that to the first order, we’re just talking about almond milk, a trend which continue into the future.
- dashundchen 8y ago
  And? I'm not sure what your point is. I was pointing out there are non-dairy milks with protein in them. Almond milk still uses less water and way less CO2e emissions than dairy to produce the same volume of milk. Animal agriculture is horrendous for the planet, any increase in non-dairy milk at the expense of dairy milk is a definite win for the environment. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46459714 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46459714 From the BBC calculator, which comes from University of Oxford researcher Joseph Poore, and Thomas Nemecek of the Agroecology and Environment Research Division in Zurich, Switzerland 1 glass (200ml) per serving almond milk daily Over an entire year your consumption of almond milk is contributing 51kg to your annual greenhouse gas emissions. ... 27,042 litres of water 1 glass (200ml) per serving dairy milk daily Over an entire year your consumption of dairy milk is contributing 229kg to your annual greenhouse gas emissions ... 45,733 litres of water 652m² land
  - Pharmakon 8y ago
    I can’t tell from that calculation, but it seems they’re comparing X of almonds, to a whole dairy cow. That’s... weird. It’s also odd that they compare by volume, and not by calorie. All I’m all I’m left wanting to see the data behind the calculator so fair comparisons can be made. Either way given that my advice was, and remains “drink water” and not “drink milk” I’m also not sure what your point is. Especially when looking at the graph on the page you linked to, it becomes clear that the CO2 emission question is spurious. Dairy is fairly efficient, but actually killing and eating the animal isn’t. Fortunately beef cattle are not dairy cattle, and while the industries are linked, they are not inextricably linked. Most of all though, I’ll say it again, All told drinking a lot of anything other than water is probably a bad move... To that I’d add that if your real concern is environmental, milk is the least of it, cheese being a far bigger offender. Cheese being effectively condensed milk means that your kilogram of cheese took 10kg of milk to make.

Pharmakon 8y ago

Soy milk has protein and doesn't necessarily have sugar depending on the brand, if you are looking for a response to that. And if we want to talk water usage and environmental impact, any cattle/dairy product is consuming at least order of magnitude more resources and emissions than oats or soy beans. Oat milk isn’t even a rounding error of total plant “milk” consumption. https://www.statista.com/statistics/693015/dairy-alternatives-global-sales-value-by-category/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/693015/dairy-alternative... Almond dominates by an order of magnitude, and has grown a loooot just since 2013, while soy milk consumption has actually dropped. Worse, it is projected that consumption of almond milk will more than double, while all other types are effectively flat. When we talk about this subject, it’s important to realize that to the first order, we’re just talking about almond milk, a trend which continue into the future.

dashundchen 8y ago
And? I'm not sure what your point is. I was pointing out there are non-dairy milks with protein in them. Almond milk still uses less water and way less CO2e emissions than dairy to produce the same volume of milk. Animal agriculture is horrendous for the planet, any increase in non-dairy milk at the expense of dairy milk is a definite win for the environment. https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46459714 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46459714 From the BBC calculator, which comes from University of Oxford researcher Joseph Poore, and Thomas Nemecek of the Agroecology and Environment Research Division in Zurich, Switzerland 1 glass (200ml) per serving almond milk daily Over an entire year your consumption of almond milk is contributing 51kg to your annual greenhouse gas emissions. ... 27,042 litres of water 1 glass (200ml) per serving dairy milk daily Over an entire year your consumption of dairy milk is contributing 229kg to your annual greenhouse gas emissions ... 45,733 litres of water 652m² land
- Pharmakon 8y ago
  I can’t tell from that calculation, but it seems they’re comparing X of almonds, to a whole dairy cow. That’s... weird. It’s also odd that they compare by volume, and not by calorie. All I’m all I’m left wanting to see the data behind the calculator so fair comparisons can be made. Either way given that my advice was, and remains “drink water” and not “drink milk” I’m also not sure what your point is. Especially when looking at the graph on the page you linked to, it becomes clear that the CO2 emission question is spurious. Dairy is fairly efficient, but actually killing and eating the animal isn’t. Fortunately beef cattle are not dairy cattle, and while the industries are linked, they are not inextricably linked. Most of all though, I’ll say it again, All told drinking a lot of anything other than water is probably a bad move... To that I’d add that if your real concern is environmental, milk is the least of it, cheese being a far bigger offender. Cheese being effectively condensed milk means that your kilogram of cheese took 10kg of milk to make.