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I don't drink milk. But we do buy a half gallon of heavy whipping cream twice a month from Costco. It's not about the taste, but macros. Try getting the same
by nightski 8y ago
I don't drink milk. But we do buy a half gallon of heavy whipping cream twice a month from Costco. It's not about the taste, but macros. Try getting the same fat/protein/carb ratio with soy.... FWIW I still drink almond milk occasionally. But it's no replacement for heavy cream in my coffee.
For me it's the same with fake meat. They tend to be carb heavy and little fat. Although beyond meat macros look pretty decent. Unfortunately it's $14/lb.
- jelliclesfarm 8y agoI agree. The goal of food must be that it’s is calorie and nutrient dense with as little expenditure or harmful. Hopefully we can find plant based alternatives and anything from perennials would be better. Like tree nut milks. The cost of dairy milk is the methane side effect that is actually more harmful to our eco system than carbon ..especially with our changing climate. I really like what’s happening with synthetic foods made using algae etc.
- Ar-Curunir 8y agoFood must also be delicious. Sapping joy out of life is not really a fun way to, well, live.
- jelliclesfarm 8y agohttps://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/interviews/pollan.html https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/meat/intervie... : I recommend this interview with Michael Pollan to people who imagine that the way we eat now is ‘natural’.
- craftyguy 8y ago'Delicious food' is very much a modern human invention. The vast majority of human history is full of foods that sustain life, but rarely 'delicious'.
- Ar-Curunir 8y agoYes, but the point of human progress is not that we don't have to survive like our ancestors, but rather can thrive. Cases where the former occurs are not due to inherent necessity but rather due to faults of the dominant economic system.
- jelliclesfarm 8y agothere is always the issue of exponentially growth in population and shrinking natural resources like land, water and obviously climate change that are independent of economic systems.
- seanwilson 8y ago> For me it's the same with fake meat. They tend to be carb heavy and little fat Have you looked into seitan and vital wheat gluten? You can make it yourself and it's very high in protein.
- fucking_tragedy 8y agoTofu and tempeh are protein heavy with little carbohydrates.
- rlue 8y agoEven easier, peanuts are _very_ protein- and fat-rich with almost no carbohydrates. I boil and can a kilo of peanut soup every two weeks and chug a can for breakfast every day—25g proteins, 50g fat. Pouring it into a bowl with soy milk makes it a lot more palatable, but if you're just concerned about your macros, there are definitely more sustainable, plant-based ways to get 'em.
- Knufen 8y agoBut this is only a half truth, in the sense that not all protein are equal. You can not get the same anino acid from plants as you can from meat. And that is without taking bioavailability into account.
- rlue 8y agoAccording to sfgate[0], peanuts contain all nine essential amino acids, though they are relatively low in methionine. This can be supplemented with "almost any other plant food that is not a legume," including staples like wheat, rice, and oats. [0]: https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/foods-make-complete-proteins-peanuts-1663.html https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/foods-make-complete-protein...