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Please don't take this personally. We have a situation here that I have seen a few times and I need help understanding it. We have an article in the New York T

by fefe23 8y ago

Please don't take this personally. We have a situation here that I have seen a few times and I need help understanding it. We have an article in the New York Times. Some dude on Twitter reacts to it. You link to the dude on Twitter instead of the Times. Why? Even worse, you did not even link to the dude on Twitter. You link to some unrelated "thread unrolling" service, carefully making sure nobody who did any of the work gets any of the traffic. Have they treated you unfairly in the past to deserve this as punishment? I don't get it. That aside: McKinsey may be a horrible company, but they didn't make opioids. Shouldn't we be focusing on the opiod makers here? I'm saying this as a European who has no skin in the game.

anigbrowl 8y ago
* McKinsey may be a horrible company, but they didn't make opioids.* For a nice fee, I'll draft you an actionable plan to commit the perfect murder. But hey, I'm not committing any myself and I can't help what people do with the things they learn from my super-specific and reliable murder consultancy services.
Treegarden 8y ago
I dont know too much about McKinsey (besides from the obvious) but I would like to know what why they might be a horrible company.
- b_tterc_p 8y ago
  It’s probably better to say that all major consulting companies are complicit with all aspects of major markets. Almost every large company employs McKinsey or one of its competitors. Most people involved will not be working on “horrible” content. Some people will, largely driven by the area they work in. Projects could range from making insurance more profitable (broadly speaking bad for society) to improving diversity and inclusion (a good thing). Consulting firms are rental shops for talented workers.
jlarocco 8y ago
I agree, not linking to the original source is very annoying and makes it difficult to understand what's going on and form an opinion. But, doing a (very) little investigation, "seapunk" is the creator of this Threader [1] web page, and is apparently spamming the service here [2]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400319 https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=seapunk https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=seapunk
- seapunk 8y ago
  Indeed I’m the creator but I only share content that is relevant for the HN community.
dang 8y ago
Ok, we changed the URL to the NYT from https://threader.app/thread/1091690262718496768 https://threader.app/thread/1091690262718496768. Submitters: the HN guidelines say "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
seapunk 8y ago
> Even worse, you did not even link to the dude on Twitter. You link to some unrelated "thread unrolling" service, carefully making sure nobody who did any of the work gets any of the traffic. The "dude" on Twitter is an ex-columnist for the NYT. His perspective matters. By the way, the thread links to the author.

by fefe23 8y ago

anigbrowl 8y ago

* McKinsey may be a horrible company, but they didn't make opioids.* For a nice fee, I'll draft you an actionable plan to commit the perfect murder. But hey, I'm not committing any myself and I can't help what people do with the things they learn from my super-specific and reliable murder consultancy services.

Treegarden 8y ago

I dont know too much about McKinsey (besides from the obvious) but I would like to know what why they might be a horrible company.

b_tterc_p 8y ago
It’s probably better to say that all major consulting companies are complicit with all aspects of major markets. Almost every large company employs McKinsey or one of its competitors. Most people involved will not be working on “horrible” content. Some people will, largely driven by the area they work in. Projects could range from making insurance more profitable (broadly speaking bad for society) to improving diversity and inclusion (a good thing). Consulting firms are rental shops for talented workers.

jlarocco 8y ago

I agree, not linking to the original source is very annoying and makes it difficult to understand what's going on and form an opinion. But, doing a (very) little investigation, "seapunk" is the creator of this Threader [1] web page, and is apparently spamming the service here [2]. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400319 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18400319 https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=seapunk https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=seapunk

seapunk 8y ago
Indeed I’m the creator but I only share content that is relevant for the HN community.

dang 8y ago

Ok, we changed the URL to the NYT from https://threader.app/thread/1091690262718496768 https://threader.app/thread/1091690262718496768. Submitters: the HN guidelines say "Please submit the original source. If a post reports on something found on another site, submit the latter." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

seapunk 8y ago

> Even worse, you did not even link to the dude on Twitter. You link to some unrelated "thread unrolling" service, carefully making sure nobody who did any of the work gets any of the traffic. The "dude" on Twitter is an ex-columnist for the NYT. His perspective matters. By the way, the thread links to the author.