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I put away about three gallons of milk a week. I just drink a lot of it (and obviously lactose intolerance isn't a problem). I can't ever stomach these. My wif

I put away about three gallons of milk a week. I just drink a lot of it (and obviously lactose intolerance isn't a problem). I can't ever stomach these. My wife, on the other hand, budgets her lactose intake, prefers lactose-free milk (which I find unpleasantly sweet), and will readily drink almond and soy milks which I can't stand. But I'm firmly ready to believe that I'm the dinosaur here.

mixmastamyk 8y ago
You can stand just about anything, just have to give it a chance. I’m reminded of a decade or two back when I switched to diet drinks, though I preferred the sugared. Now sugar soda tastes horrible. In the 80s we moved to low-fat milk, shortly after whole tasted horrible. How did I ever drink this? Take a month off then try a unsweetened coconut/almond blend, get over the hump, wait two months. You’ll be surprised at the taste and possibly disgusted you ever breastfed as an adult at a random animal you don’t know.
- hoaw 8y ago
  You do get used to it, but it is also a different experience. Most plant based milks won't be fresh (both in taste and literally) or neutral in taste. If I drink soy milk for awhile I can appreciate it, but I still wouldn't drink it as a standalone beverage. On the other hand I don't really have a need to drink milk as a beverage either.
- code_duck 8y ago
  I ate a lot of milk and cheese my entire life. Once I stopped, it was shocking how the aroma of dairy changed for me. Now it smells like old fingernails and skin, which makes perfect sense.
  - oska 8y ago
    > Now it smells like old fingernails and skin, which makes perfect sense. Doesn't make 'perfect sense' to me. Maybe poetic sense if you're coming from a certain point of view.
    - code_duck 8y ago
      If I’m not mistaken, the composition and origin are fairly similar. Milk is something that is excreted from a reproductive gland on a stock animal.
      - pofilat 8y ago
        which is not where nails come from. Calling breast a reproductive gland is weird. It's a secondary sexual feature, sure, but it's a feeding gland, whose specific purpose is to provide edible nourishment.
        jelliclesfarm 8y ago
        Actually this might an interesting read..I have been obsessed with this for a bit now..re why mammals nourish their young with their bodily secretions..: The Evolution of Milk Casein Genes from Tooth Genes before the Origin of Mammals : https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/28/7/2053/1047188 https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/28/7/2053/1047188 And this: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150725-breastfeeding-has-ancient-origins http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150725-breastfeeding-has-an... : why did some animals evolve milk and breastfeeding
        code_duck 8y ago
        Yeah, nails come from a similar process on a different part of the same animal. Not sure why you want to argue this point so much. To me, milk and cheese now smells like a bunch of old skin. Maybe you should try it and check back with your own results. Your explanation of breasts is kind of odd, too. Biologically, the only purpose they serve is reproductive. Who exactly do you think is being fed by those glands? Your best friend’s mom? You are trying to say that nourishing your young is not a reproductive activity? Then what is it? Fine dining? If the purpose is to provide ‘edible nourishment’ for just everyone apparently, where are all the breast cafés? I would love some edible nourishment.
- pofilat 8y ago
  It's tacky to try to describe things in weird terms to make them sound bad instead of arguing their merirs. I'd rather "breasfeet at a random animal" than "eat genetically engineered things that grow in dirt and manure, covered in bugs".
  - mixmastamyk 8y ago
    Most gmo free at our market. Drinking milk as an adult is weird. One is natural, one isn’t.
    - kbutler 8y ago
      > One is natural, one isn’t. Yes, but not the one you mean. Cow milk: can consume it straight as it is produced by nature, right out of the cow (but chilled is probably tastier). Can consume milks from lots of other animals, too. The only reason adult animals don't frequently consume milk is probably just availability. https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/64822/are-humans-the-only-species-who-drink-milk-as-adults https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/64822/are-humans... has interesting info, including adult wild birds finding they could peck through aluminum lids to get milk and wild gulls consuming seal milk. Soy milk: consuming a liquid produced by soaking, cooking, blending, and straining a plant part that is unsafe for humans to eat until processed by heat or fermentation. https://healthyeatinghttps://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happens-eat-raw-soybeans-11856.htmlsfgate.com/happens-eat-raw-soybeans-11856.html https://healthyeatinghttps://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happen... Then if you're buying it from a market, it has probably been packaged into a plastic or plastic-lined container (like commercial cow's milk) and processed to be shelf-stable for months, all to provide a close similarity to that "weird" drinking milk as an adult. "Natural", although often overloaded and used politically, can't quite stretch that far.
      - mixmastamyk 8y ago
        I don’t drink soy milk. Packaging is hardly relevant. You may have missed the part of the article that describes how most adult humans are lactose intolerant.
timbit42 8y ago
Your stomach will change and get used to digesting whatever you eat after a while.
picodguyo 8y ago
Milk was always my favorite drink and I consumed 2+ gallons a week as well (full fat). Last year I decided to test out weaning myself off of it to see what if any impact it would have on my body. I tried every alternative on the market and my findings were: 1. unsweetened hemp milk has the best taste and consistency but is too low in protein to be a full substitute 2. Silk's Protein Nutmilk has the next best flavor and an acceptable consistency but with a better nutrition profile After a couple of weeks, I stopped craving cow's milk. Still eating plenty of cheese and yogurt though.
- thebigspacefuck 8y ago
  Any impact on your body? I mostly switched because almond milk is lower calories and I used to drink a ton of milk so it seemed healthier. Now milk smells and tastes gross to me. But I've switched back and forth a few times, so I know that would go away if I went back.
clairity 8y ago
> "...almond and soy milks which I can't stand. But I'm firmly ready to believe that I'm the dinosaur here." why do you need to? it's understandable that others want alternatives for whatever reason, but there's no shame in liking cow milk. it's delicious. sometimes the next new thing really is better (to you), but worrying about what's fashionable becomes a tiresome treadmill.

mixmastamyk 8y ago

You can stand just about anything, just have to give it a chance. I’m reminded of a decade or two back when I switched to diet drinks, though I preferred the sugared. Now sugar soda tastes horrible. In the 80s we moved to low-fat milk, shortly after whole tasted horrible. How did I ever drink this? Take a month off then try a unsweetened coconut/almond blend, get over the hump, wait two months. You’ll be surprised at the taste and possibly disgusted you ever breastfed as an adult at a random animal you don’t know.

hoaw 8y ago
You do get used to it, but it is also a different experience. Most plant based milks won't be fresh (both in taste and literally) or neutral in taste. If I drink soy milk for awhile I can appreciate it, but I still wouldn't drink it as a standalone beverage. On the other hand I don't really have a need to drink milk as a beverage either.
code_duck 8y ago
I ate a lot of milk and cheese my entire life. Once I stopped, it was shocking how the aroma of dairy changed for me. Now it smells like old fingernails and skin, which makes perfect sense.
- oska 8y ago
  > Now it smells like old fingernails and skin, which makes perfect sense. Doesn't make 'perfect sense' to me. Maybe poetic sense if you're coming from a certain point of view.
  - code_duck 8y ago
    If I’m not mistaken, the composition and origin are fairly similar. Milk is something that is excreted from a reproductive gland on a stock animal.
    - pofilat 8y ago
      which is not where nails come from. Calling breast a reproductive gland is weird. It's a secondary sexual feature, sure, but it's a feeding gland, whose specific purpose is to provide edible nourishment.
      - jelliclesfarm 8y ago
        Actually this might an interesting read..I have been obsessed with this for a bit now..re why mammals nourish their young with their bodily secretions..: The Evolution of Milk Casein Genes from Tooth Genes before the Origin of Mammals : https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/28/7/2053/1047188 https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/28/7/2053/1047188 And this: http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150725-breastfeeding-has-ancient-origins http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20150725-breastfeeding-has-an... : why did some animals evolve milk and breastfeeding
      - code_duck 8y ago
        Yeah, nails come from a similar process on a different part of the same animal. Not sure why you want to argue this point so much. To me, milk and cheese now smells like a bunch of old skin. Maybe you should try it and check back with your own results. Your explanation of breasts is kind of odd, too. Biologically, the only purpose they serve is reproductive. Who exactly do you think is being fed by those glands? Your best friend’s mom? You are trying to say that nourishing your young is not a reproductive activity? Then what is it? Fine dining? If the purpose is to provide ‘edible nourishment’ for just everyone apparently, where are all the breast cafés? I would love some edible nourishment.
pofilat 8y ago
It's tacky to try to describe things in weird terms to make them sound bad instead of arguing their merirs. I'd rather "breasfeet at a random animal" than "eat genetically engineered things that grow in dirt and manure, covered in bugs".
- mixmastamyk 8y ago
  Most gmo free at our market. Drinking milk as an adult is weird. One is natural, one isn’t.
  - kbutler 8y ago
    > One is natural, one isn’t. Yes, but not the one you mean. Cow milk: can consume it straight as it is produced by nature, right out of the cow (but chilled is probably tastier). Can consume milks from lots of other animals, too. The only reason adult animals don't frequently consume milk is probably just availability. https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/64822/are-humans-the-only-species-who-drink-milk-as-adults https://biology.stackexchange.com/questions/64822/are-humans... has interesting info, including adult wild birds finding they could peck through aluminum lids to get milk and wild gulls consuming seal milk. Soy milk: consuming a liquid produced by soaking, cooking, blending, and straining a plant part that is unsafe for humans to eat until processed by heat or fermentation. https://healthyeatinghttps://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happens-eat-raw-soybeans-11856.htmlsfgate.com/happens-eat-raw-soybeans-11856.html https://healthyeatinghttps://healthyeating.sfgate.com/happen... Then if you're buying it from a market, it has probably been packaged into a plastic or plastic-lined container (like commercial cow's milk) and processed to be shelf-stable for months, all to provide a close similarity to that "weird" drinking milk as an adult. "Natural", although often overloaded and used politically, can't quite stretch that far.
    - mixmastamyk 8y ago
      I don’t drink soy milk. Packaging is hardly relevant. You may have missed the part of the article that describes how most adult humans are lactose intolerant.

timbit42 8y ago

Your stomach will change and get used to digesting whatever you eat after a while.

picodguyo 8y ago

Milk was always my favorite drink and I consumed 2+ gallons a week as well (full fat). Last year I decided to test out weaning myself off of it to see what if any impact it would have on my body. I tried every alternative on the market and my findings were: 1. unsweetened hemp milk has the best taste and consistency but is too low in protein to be a full substitute 2. Silk's Protein Nutmilk has the next best flavor and an acceptable consistency but with a better nutrition profile After a couple of weeks, I stopped craving cow's milk. Still eating plenty of cheese and yogurt though.

thebigspacefuck 8y ago
Any impact on your body? I mostly switched because almond milk is lower calories and I used to drink a ton of milk so it seemed healthier. Now milk smells and tastes gross to me. But I've switched back and forth a few times, so I know that would go away if I went back.

clairity 8y ago

> "...almond and soy milks which I can't stand. But I'm firmly ready to believe that I'm the dinosaur here." why do you need to? it's understandable that others want alternatives for whatever reason, but there's no shame in liking cow milk. it's delicious. sometimes the next new thing really is better (to you), but worrying about what's fashionable becomes a tiresome treadmill.