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It's worse than embarrassing, it's disgusting, it's shameful, it's kind of indicative of the breakdown of our societal norms - see politics for another area. A
by Latteland 8y ago
It's worse than embarrassing, it's disgusting, it's shameful, it's kind of indicative of the breakdown of our societal norms - see politics for another area. A lot of those people were minorities, all of them must have been poor. We don't have equal rights for people who can't afford a lawyer. If you are a juror in a case, you have to consider if this is the situation. It never really hit me that I could be one of the people who could be faced with a situation like this - could I detect that non-existent defense lawyer, could I be strong enough of character to discuss that with the other jurors. I'm sure that for our entire history this has been something faced by poor and minority defendants, but I think it must be worse than in the past because of the plea bargain hunting by prosecutors and the increasing prosecution and filling of prisons.
We have maybe 3 levels of criminal justice in America. The larger group of people who can't afford a lawyer and have an overburdened public defender, regular people who can afford a lawyer, and then rich people who can afford endless money to challenge even reasonable evidence - think any celebrity accused of a crime. Prosecutors try to plea bargain cases, and poor people probably are told by their overburdened public defender to go along with it. If a lot of those people didn't plea bargain but went to a real trial, then the public defender wouldn't even be able to go to that many trials.
One of the presidential candidates this year was a prosecutor (Sen. Kamala Harris), and she was one of those who in some cases at least didn't seem to intervene in cases where there was proprietorial malfeasance.
- bellerose 8y ago> We don't have equal rights for people who can't afford a lawyer. This is why if I were to have kids. I would make sure they have 10 grand saved for a lawyer (if & when an emergency happens in adulthood) and having them understand it could be 50 grand needed for bail. Parents who have kids with little to no finances really shouldn't in today's society. Innocent people can have their lives just ruined by being poor.